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hollowlegs

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5,908 posts

223 months

Thursday 31st August 2006
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anyone know where to find this new 99ron tesco fuel, never seen it in aberdeen before, iv just been using optimax or bp ultimate but want to see what like the new tesco stuff is that is in the article on home page.

Kiltie

7,504 posts

253 months

Thursday 31st August 2006
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Couldn't find anything on the Tesco site.

It appears to be supplied by Greenergy.

According to their site, it appears to only be available in Englandshire - click.

Cheers,

Eric

Kiltie

7,504 posts

253 months

Thursday 31st August 2006
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Kiltie said:
... only be available in Englandshire ...

... and Welsh Wales ... paperbag

hollowlegs

Original Poster:

5,908 posts

223 months

Thursday 31st August 2006
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i have emailed greenergy asking when they might make this fuel available to us up here in kiltland.

Kiltie

7,504 posts

253 months

Thursday 31st August 2006
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Good stuff.

Let us know what the response is.

Cheers,

Eric

JohnS

937 posts

291 months

Thursday 31st August 2006
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The newly released V-Power from Shell to replace Optimax is now 99Ron also, and is widely available up here. Ok, it's probably 5p/litre more expensive than the tesco stuff, but a review I read in another magainze showed that Optimax gave better results than tesco 99RON when running on turbo cars.

For cars which don't have active knock control, and you can't remap the ECU, then there would be litle benefit in running the more expensive fuel (for power), as the engine won't be able to advance the timing etc to make the best of it.

hollowlegs

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5,908 posts

223 months

Thursday 31st August 2006
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i dont have a turbo'd car and i have no clue to whether or not the tvr speed six has an active knock sensor, but if the tesco stuff proves to be better in the reviews and is cheaper, i'd prefer to use it with chance it does actually improve my cars performance/mpg.

993c4

246 posts

243 months

Thursday 31st August 2006
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See the PH home page and read the report that states that Tesco 99 is the best fuel you can buy following 7 months of testing.

Why it is not available in Scotland is beyond belief!

VetteG

3,236 posts

251 months

Friday 1st September 2006
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993c4 said:
See the PH home page and read the report that states that Tesco 99 is the best fuel you can buy following 7 months of testing.

Why it is not available in Scotland is beyond belief!


Its available in Edinburgh at Tesco Superstore The Gyle Corstorphine.

5 mins from my house which means that the vette and the scoob will be regular customers.

G

996tt_stevo

4,078 posts

235 months

Friday 1st September 2006
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VetteG said:
993c4 said:
See the PH home page and read the report that states that Tesco 99 is the best fuel you can buy following 7 months of testing.

Why it is not available in Scotland is beyond belief!


Its available in Edinburgh at Tesco Superstore The Gyle Corstorphine.

5 mins from my house which means that the vette and the scoob will be regular customers.

G


That's bizarre! I was along a couple of weeks back and i'm sure they didn't have 99! Has it just come in?

emicen

8,720 posts

225 months

Friday 1st September 2006
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993c4 said:
See the PH home page and read the report that states that Tesco 99 is the best fuel you can buy following 7 months of testing.

Why it is not available in Scotland is beyond belief!


Scientific test my arse.

True science would dictate an engine connected to a dyno in a dyno cell where atmospheric conditions can be homogenised across the tests. It would also seek to vary more than one characteristic, e.g. not just whats the power out put when you bung in this fuel, but how much extra advance can you run on the ignition.

Thats what Jap Perf. did with Optimax, Ultimate and Tesco99. Optimax won by some 20 odd hp and 40lb ft.

hollowlegs

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5,908 posts

223 months

Friday 1st September 2006
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i have recieved an email from greenergy, as follows

Hi Graham
Coming from Buckie myself I agree with your comments on the cars!!!
You can find details of the fuel on our web-site www.greenergy.co.uk .
Tesco have been very keen to roll out this grade in Scotland and to that end we are investing in some tank alterations at Ross Chemical
(Grangemouth) which will enable us to supply from there. The fuel should be available from early November, I hope it may be sooner as I am pushing the engineering work hard.

Regards
Ewan Alexander
Supply & Marketing Manager

VetteG

3,236 posts

251 months

Friday 1st September 2006
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996tt_stevo said:

That's bizarre! I was along a couple of weeks back and i'm sure they didn't have 99! Has it just come in?


Ah I'm going on second hand info here, since I'm currently in Moscow. My son says he tried it in his Spitfire a few weeks ago. I will re check with him and come back.

G

VetteG

3,236 posts

251 months

Friday 1st September 2006
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Son confirms that Tesco Corstorphine definitely had it a week ago.

G

hollowlegs

Original Poster:

5,908 posts

223 months

Friday 1st September 2006
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any chance he was confused with supreme or whatever they call the 97 ron stuff?

hopefully by end of the year should see it up here in sunny aberdeen

mattius

457 posts

222 months

Friday 1st September 2006
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im the son, maybe i was confused last week, but i definatly filled my spitfire up with 99 about a month ago.

VetteG

3,236 posts

251 months

Friday 1st September 2006
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So does this mean that I'm better running the vette, with no ECu etc. but a 10.5/1 CR on the Tesco stuff and the Impreza on the Optimax?

Sounds like it.

G

hollowlegs

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Friday 1st September 2006
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think so vetteG

davefiddes

846 posts

267 months

Saturday 2nd September 2006
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VetteG, I'd check with your engine builder before splashing out cash on expensive fuels. If it has been built to run with 95 RON fuel and doesn't see any knocking then it is unlikely you will see any benefit from the more expensive fuel. Even if you adjust the timing to compensate you'll be unlikely to see any great improvements. It's only if you adjust the static CR and cam timing that you would get any benefit.

My SBC was built in the US for 91 AKI gas and runs great on UK 95 RON unleaded. Japanese turbo cars which were designed for 100 RON petrol will definitely benefit from the newer fuels though.

Personally I'm holding out for better availability of E85 bioethanol. Would be quite interesting to build a modern LSx V8 to make full use of the improved burn characteristics. In an Ultima it would quite a bit quicker than that Exige that was in the news recently too...

VetteG

3,236 posts

251 months

Monday 4th September 2006
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Hi Dave,
My engine does not run well on 95ron, so I have been using Optimax. However Optimax is made for modern engines and my small block chevy is a 1960, 1970's engine hence my thinking it will run better on the (cheaper than Optimax) less complex 99ron Tesco stuff. Engine builder is American and USA petrol is graded in a different way to ours, however they do recommend 'Super' gas.

G