Glasgow v edinburgh ULEZ
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I was comparing the glasgow and edinburgh ELEZ boundaries. The glasgow boundary is ridiculous. It is basically the whole city centre. I was thinking about my mum and where she could park and use public transport to city centre. There is no where. The only car parking area would be the multi story car park at the Royal Infirmary Hospital which isn’t appropriate or ethical. She would either need to cross the water to the Glasgow Quey or The SECC. Glasgow is dying slowly and this is last nail in coffin.
Edinburgh is not so bad but at least you can get to Haymarket or Queen Street which is a short work to a George Street and Princess Street. These ULEZ boundaries are ridiculous and a tax on people who can’t afford Euro 6 cars. This is the first step to only electric vehicles being aloud in city centres. A small diesel car is. It aloud in the city centre but a huge Euro 6 truck or bus is allowed in.
Edinburgh is not so bad but at least you can get to Haymarket or Queen Street which is a short work to a George Street and Princess Street. These ULEZ boundaries are ridiculous and a tax on people who can’t afford Euro 6 cars. This is the first step to only electric vehicles being aloud in city centres. A small diesel car is. It aloud in the city centre but a huge Euro 6 truck or bus is allowed in.
The council in Glasgow appear hell bent on killing town centre It is nigh on impossible to take someone in to either of the two main stations to drop them off if disabled
I wonder just how many folk are going to be stung next month by not realising their cars are non compliant
At least they now have a decent registration checker
https://www.lowemissionzones.scot/vehicle-registra...
I wonder just how many folk are going to be stung next month by not realising their cars are non compliant
At least they now have a decent registration checker
https://www.lowemissionzones.scot/vehicle-registra...
Edited by S2red on Wednesday 3rd May 08:35
Edited by S2red on Wednesday 3rd May 08:36
Had forgot about this.
I suspect all Scottish LEZ will creep expand once they're in play and the range of restricted vehicles will tighten up.
My private vehicles are unaffected as it stands but I note none of the works vehicles we use daily for lifting and shifting of tools and equipment are allowed.
Given the speed my employer moves regarding any issue I don't expect any problems at all in June 2024
I suspect all Scottish LEZ will creep expand once they're in play and the range of restricted vehicles will tighten up.
My private vehicles are unaffected as it stands but I note none of the works vehicles we use daily for lifting and shifting of tools and equipment are allowed.
Given the speed my employer moves regarding any issue I don't expect any problems at all in June 2024
S2red said:
The council claim only 105 of cars are affected
Son was car spotting last week when in town he reckoned about 30%+ were older cars that dont meet standards
I think most petrol cars from the mid noughties will meet the standard, it's really any diesel car over 10 years old that is most impacted. Son was car spotting last week when in town he reckoned about 30%+ were older cars that dont meet standards
My 2007 petrol Mercedes S class can not go into glasgow and my mums 2014 Range Rover Diesel can not go into glasgow. I told my mum this morning and she said she will now just go to the large shopping retail parks now.
Over the years local towns and city centre have deteriorated. Ignorant people will tell you it is because people have less money to spend at the shops or buy online which is nonsense. I live in Falkirk and the retail park as sucked the life out the town centre. Glasgow city centre is a shadow of itself when there is three large retail parks like Glasgow Fort, Braehead and Silverburn all busy . The attack on the motorist has forced shoppers to the retail park for easy and free parking.
Over the years local towns and city centre have deteriorated. Ignorant people will tell you it is because people have less money to spend at the shops or buy online which is nonsense. I live in Falkirk and the retail park as sucked the life out the town centre. Glasgow city centre is a shadow of itself when there is three large retail parks like Glasgow Fort, Braehead and Silverburn all busy . The attack on the motorist has forced shoppers to the retail park for easy and free parking.
Diesel cars over 6 years old, not 10!
It really is drastic considering Glasgow's public transport isn't the best. For us coming in, we can park the family car at Shields Road as we normally do, but we will have a new car soon anyway - I really feel for the folk who can't afford something more modern. The last place to tax the poor is Glasgow
It really is drastic considering Glasgow's public transport isn't the best. For us coming in, we can park the family car at Shields Road as we normally do, but we will have a new car soon anyway - I really feel for the folk who can't afford something more modern. The last place to tax the poor is Glasgow
you might struggle to park at Shields Road in the future because a lot of people will need to know. Also my mother could afford to get a compliant car but why should anyone need to get a new car and spend more money to get into the city centre. I wonder what the poorer people are going to do that need to work in the city centre. I can understand if you could take your car to the Multi Story car park at Cowcaddens or Buchanan Galleries but you can not even get close. Any parking outside the boundary will be in a position to charge more.
There was chat about it, but it doesn't - that's the irony - a stinky motorway running right through the city. Not that it's funny for the poor folk who live near it - I hate that part of town. Was it Barclays that actually sat across the motorway? A friend who worked there complained to me about it.
In fact most of the centre of Glasgow (round the station) has always felt horrid due to the fumes - I guess the tall buildings don't help it, so anything that helps make it more attractive is a good thing for the residents and visitors.
That's real problem area IMO - it just feels like everything else is collateral damage
In fact most of the centre of Glasgow (round the station) has always felt horrid due to the fumes - I guess the tall buildings don't help it, so anything that helps make it more attractive is a good thing for the residents and visitors.
That's real problem area IMO - it just feels like everything else is collateral damage
According to publicity, Blue Badge holders will be exempt from charges. That's fine if its the blue badge holder driving a ULEZ compliant car. But if the badge holder is in (and not necessarily driving) a non compliant vehicle he doesn't own, how does the system know the journey is exempt?
Does the vehicle driver wait for a fine to pop through the letter box then try to challenge it? Should the driver record any journey he makes with a blue badge holder and get someone to witness it? (Bearing in mind the laws of corroboration in Scotland)
I know many blue badge holders (my wife works in an old folks home and there are at least 8 with badges who don't own cars) who beg lifts from anyone, don't use the internet (and don't know how to) and have limited (in cases no) family support.
I see trouble ahead.......................................
Does the vehicle driver wait for a fine to pop through the letter box then try to challenge it? Should the driver record any journey he makes with a blue badge holder and get someone to witness it? (Bearing in mind the laws of corroboration in Scotland)
I know many blue badge holders (my wife works in an old folks home and there are at least 8 with badges who don't own cars) who beg lifts from anyone, don't use the internet (and don't know how to) and have limited (in cases no) family support.
I see trouble ahead.......................................
Blue badge holders need to register the car they are traveling in, whether its long term or a day trip......
If you are a Blue Badge holder, and the vehicle you are travelling in does not have disabled vehicle/disabled passenger vehicle tax class, then you will need to register for an exemption in advance of travel to the LEZ.
Blue Badge holders can register vehicles for either long term or one-day exemptions which will apply to all LEZs in Scotland. Exemptions can be registered for up to seven days in advance of travel and before midnight on the same day of travel.
Long Term Exemption
You can register a vehicle for a long term exemption, provided the vehicle is registered to your home address. The long term exemption will remain active for as long as the Blue Badge is valid unless otherwise updated on your account.
One Day Exemptions
You can also register for one day exemptions for up to two vehicles you are travelling in that day. One day exemptions can be made up to seven days before travelling.
Organisational Blue Badges
Organisations with Blue Badges can also now register their Scottish LEZ Exemption Accounts online. Organisations may register all the Blue Badges they hold on a single account. The number of Blue Badges held by the organisation will entitle them to that number of One-Day Exemptions to be active on a single day.
If you are a Blue Badge holder, and the vehicle you are travelling in does not have disabled vehicle/disabled passenger vehicle tax class, then you will need to register for an exemption in advance of travel to the LEZ.
Blue Badge holders can register vehicles for either long term or one-day exemptions which will apply to all LEZs in Scotland. Exemptions can be registered for up to seven days in advance of travel and before midnight on the same day of travel.
Long Term Exemption
You can register a vehicle for a long term exemption, provided the vehicle is registered to your home address. The long term exemption will remain active for as long as the Blue Badge is valid unless otherwise updated on your account.
One Day Exemptions
You can also register for one day exemptions for up to two vehicles you are travelling in that day. One day exemptions can be made up to seven days before travelling.
Organisational Blue Badges
Organisations with Blue Badges can also now register their Scottish LEZ Exemption Accounts online. Organisations may register all the Blue Badges they hold on a single account. The number of Blue Badges held by the organisation will entitle them to that number of One-Day Exemptions to be active on a single day.
Personal transport apart, the real kick in the teeth for LEZ residents will be finding tradesmen with LEZ compliant vehicles. I've already met a number of small business that are no longer quoting for work inside the zone. There is plenty of work around without bothering about the city centre, seems to be the general attitude.
DCL said:
Personal transport apart, the real kick in the teeth for LEZ residents will be finding tradesmen with LEZ compliant vehicles. I've already met a number of small business that are no longer quoting for work inside the zone. There is plenty of work around without bothering about the city centre, seems to be the general attitude.
Exactly and a good point. Vans are very expensive just now. "Glasgow City Council is having to hire vehicles because some of its own fleet does not meet new rules on emissions.
More than 600 of its vehicles are not allowed inside the city's Low Emission Zone (LEZ) introduced last week."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-wes...
Absolute clowns.
More than 600 of its vehicles are not allowed inside the city's Low Emission Zone (LEZ) introduced last week."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-wes...
Absolute clowns.
The article about GDC non compliant vehicles asks what the cost of hiring alternatives are,. A person from GDC said the didn't know!
How if this has been years in the planning did they have so many non complaint vehcles, and why on earth do they effectively have to duplicate the number of vehicles, or do they just take the view, we will put polluting vehicles in areas we don't care about? If the issue is cleaner vehicles, then they should have had them.
In London you have the choice of paying to drive in. £12.50 per day. But during the train strike last friday it was the only way three of us could travel into London for various purposes. Up here. An absolute ban; and fines that continue to double.
Cray and incompetent and wasting ratepayers money. Like their bicycle lanes. Great Idea in Central London and Amsterdam, which are FLAT. Unlike Glasgow CC!
How if this has been years in the planning did they have so many non complaint vehcles, and why on earth do they effectively have to duplicate the number of vehicles, or do they just take the view, we will put polluting vehicles in areas we don't care about? If the issue is cleaner vehicles, then they should have had them.
In London you have the choice of paying to drive in. £12.50 per day. But during the train strike last friday it was the only way three of us could travel into London for various purposes. Up here. An absolute ban; and fines that continue to double.
Cray and incompetent and wasting ratepayers money. Like their bicycle lanes. Great Idea in Central London and Amsterdam, which are FLAT. Unlike Glasgow CC!
Its a good move, folk wont change, until they are put on thr spot, and as for london thats a money grab. at least here in scotland its been done right.
got to get rid of those stinky diesels....
Oh and euro7.... looking to count rubber from tyres and brake dust... as zero emissions dont have engines and as more go to zero emissions the clowns will need to have some other way to make a car dirty so they can ban them or claim lez charges.
got to get rid of those stinky diesels....
Oh and euro7.... looking to count rubber from tyres and brake dust... as zero emissions dont have engines and as more go to zero emissions the clowns will need to have some other way to make a car dirty so they can ban them or claim lez charges.
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