Looking at property in Moray

Looking at property in Moray

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BorkBorkBork

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731 posts

57 months

Tuesday 19th July 2022
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I’m looking at relocating to Scotland. I know Moray is a beautiful part of the country and have visited a few times, although not for a few years. But I haven’t had a driving holiday in that area.

What’s the driving like around the Elgin area, and also east of Elgin, in those areas north and west of Aberdeen? And south of Elgin through the Cairngorms down towards Perth?

Thanks.


Desiderata

2,502 posts

60 months

Tuesday 19th July 2022
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Depends on what you're driving. The A roads tend to be busy ( although not to southern levels). Lots of nice B roads, particularly down towards the Cairngorms.
My brother lives in Glenlivet and the roads around there are sublime, but more suitable to a Subaru than a Ferrari.

flatlemon

95 posts

81 months

Wednesday 20th July 2022
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Lovely coastline in Moray.

In terms of driving you're not far from the popular Cairn O Mount road that a lot of people drive. Within easy reach of the Cairngorms as mentioned above, including the Old Military Road from Grantown-on-Spey to Blairgowrie - stunning drive, even coming back the same way.

The road from Grantown to Nairn is a cracker too.

Depending where you're moving from, I'm sure you'll be able to find lots of good roads to stretch the cars legs!

LankyFreak

701 posts

34 months

Wednesday 20th July 2022
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Definitely find an excuse to hit the Lecht if you haven't already. Wee bit further north and you've got the roads between Alness and Tain, might be a good half day trip.

some bloke

1,155 posts

73 months

Wednesday 20th July 2022
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I have nipped over to Applecross/Torridon for lunch while staying in Nairn, so there are some great roads and scenery within easy reach. The A96 can get a bit tedious as it has a lot of roundabouts but it's a lovely pat of the world. My brother was in Macduff for a few years so I spent a bit of time up around there and still go up to that area for the occasional week holiday.

2ZZ Top

3,021 posts

145 months

Wednesday 20th July 2022
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You're spoiled for choice for fun driving. It's the daily grind on the A96 that'll get you down. biggrin

GinSour

52 posts

86 months

Wednesday 20th July 2022
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Lots of good driving roads in Moray, Aberdeenshire and Cairngorms.

Alford - Cabrach - Dufftown road is one of the ones i like. Few other crackers mentioned above...

Have you thought of property in Aberdeenshire at all?

BorkBorkBork

Original Poster:

731 posts

57 months

Wednesday 20th July 2022
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GinSour said:
Lots of good driving roads in Moray, Aberdeenshire and Cairngorms.

Alford - Cabrach - Dufftown road is one of the ones i like. Few other crackers mentioned above...

Have you thought of property in Aberdeenshire at all?
Thanks everyone for the info/suggestions.

I’m currently looking anywhere from Nairn across to Banff, and as far south as Grantown-on-Spey in the West and across to Insch or Inverurie in the East. I’m not too fussy, other than I’d prefer closer to the coast and ideally rural. But very happy to hear suggestions?



some bloke

1,155 posts

73 months

Wednesday 20th July 2022
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Last year I was looking for a holiday house - Nairn and Cullen were my two favourites. Portsoy is a nice wee spot too. We even enjoyed a few days in Lossiemouth. It's a pretty big step so I would suggest spending at least a week up there looking about. It's a great coast in summer - most of the rain falls before it travels that far east but it's been the only place I have been so cold I had to wear two hats in winter.

GinSour

52 posts

86 months

Wednesday 20th July 2022
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BorkBorkBork said:
Thanks everyone for the info/suggestions.

I’m currently looking anywhere from Nairn across to Banff, and as far south as Grantown-on-Spey in the West and across to Insch or Inverurie in the East. I’m not too fussy, other than I’d prefer closer to the coast and ideally rural. But very happy to hear suggestions?
Might come a bit bias as i am Inverurie born and raised.

Huntly/Insch/Inverurie/Kintore have the rail and bus links to Inverness and Aberdeen (if that makes a difference). Inverurie and Kintore would be my pick out of them.

If links don't matter there is Rothienorman, a village 12 or so miles north of Inverurie. Also the up the coast with Portsoy/Cullen they are all nice places.

BorkBorkBork

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731 posts

57 months

Wednesday 20th July 2022
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Thanks, I’ll keep those suggestions in mind. I’m hopefully making a trip north in the next month or so to recce a few locations. Bringing the car this time too, to sample some of the roads.

s2kjock

1,746 posts

153 months

Sunday 24th July 2022
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Can't add much to the above in terms of driving. You have a huge area in terms of location you seem to be looking at, but plenty of choice. Lovely part of the world, and lots to do.

As noted above, A96 is hellish - should have been dualled a long time ago and using it can be painful at rush hour/mid weekend. Traffic in Elgin can be surprisingly bad due to huge amounts of new housing going up. Higher quality housing in the area is also more than you might expect due to impact of RAF Lossiemouth investment and also local hospital.

For rural areas, and if not needing to "commute", traffic should be much less of an issue - just time your visits to "town" appropriately.

"town centres" vary - Elgin pretty awful, but the likes of Grantown are good.

Winters will be colder with more snow/ice (climate change permitting) - the further you get from the coast the greater the impact. There is a limit to how quickly rural roads get cleared/gritted in the winter depending on where you are so take that into account.

BorkBorkBork

Original Poster:

731 posts

57 months

Monday 25th July 2022
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s2kjock said:
Can't add much to the above in terms of driving. You have a huge area in terms of location you seem to be looking at, but plenty of choice. Lovely part of the world, and lots to do.

As noted above, A96 is hellish - should have been dualled a long time ago and using it can be painful at rush hour/mid weekend. Traffic in Elgin can be surprisingly bad due to huge amounts of new housing going up. Higher quality housing in the area is also more than you might expect due to impact of RAF Lossiemouth investment and also local hospital.

For rural areas, and if not needing to "commute", traffic should be much less of an issue - just time your visits to "town" appropriately.

"town centres" vary - Elgin pretty awful, but the likes of Grantown are good.

Winters will be colder with more snow/ice (climate change permitting) - the further you get from the coast the greater the impact. There is a limit to how quickly rural roads get cleared/gritted in the winter depending on where you are so take that into account.
Thanks for that. I’ve extended my search area south of Grantown, as the Cairngorms is such a beautiful area. But I’m mindful of the winters up there, and how being closer to the coast will help with that. Lots to think about.

rewild

3,021 posts

145 months

Monday 25th July 2022
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Can you say any more about your circumstances? You say relocating, so this isn't a second/holiday home, right?

Retired or work from home? Kids coming too? Hobbies? Do you holiday abroad, or need to return south often? Got any friends in Scotland you'd like easy access to? Style of property/approx budget? Number of garages wink ?

We might be able to narrow down your search or recommend some areas.

Heidfirst

183 posts

93 months

Tuesday 26th July 2022
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s2kjock said:
Winters will be colder with more snow/ice (climate change permitting) - the further you get from the coast the greater the impact. There is a limit to how quickly rural roads get cleared/gritted in the winter depending on where you are so take that into account.
there is a reason why the RNAS/RAF put the airfields at Kinloss & Lossiemouth. They are in a micro-climate that extends a few miles either side along the coast & gets less snow than other places that really aren't that far away at all.

s2kjock

1,746 posts

153 months

Wednesday 27th July 2022
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There were a large number of airfields right across Moray built during WW2 principally for training pilots as it was far enough away from the Nazis to be fairly safe - I guess the climate helped also, although that had never occurred to me before. Plenty flat land on the Laich of Moray.

Shame they were not able to build Dalcross a bit closer to Inverness biggrin

I learnt the basics of car control, as did many others, at one of these old airfields before I was old enough to be allowed out on the road - I think it is all closed off now, but bizarre to think that it was such a wide open concreted space that the general public "had access to" - happy days.

I this had been much further south someone might have had a go at turning one or two of these into motor-racing circuits.

Heidfirst

183 posts

93 months

Wednesday 27th July 2022
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s2kjock said:
There were a large number of airfields right across Moray built during WW2 principally for training pilots as it was far enough away from the Nazis to be fairly safe - I guess the climate helped also, although that had never occurred to me before. .
You will find many airfields (in Scotland at least) & mostly ex-military built in areas of better micro-climates of one type or another (less precipitation, wind or whatever), many of them being near the coast but especially on the East for obvious reasons when aircraft didn't have the range or speed that they now have. Prestwick e.g. has probably the best weather record of any airfield in the UK often being open when many others have closed.

Skyedriver

18,574 posts

288 months

Saturday 30th July 2022
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Just back from a week hol over there. Stayed at Tugnet between Elgin & Buckie.
great to watch the Ospey, Dolphins and Seals but found the towns/villages a bit run down.
Elgin not what we expected, ditto Lossiemouth, Buckie, Portknockie etc Good little Motor Museum in Elgin though and nice museum in Fochabers.
Marvellous Fish & chips in Portknockie.
Thought Cullen & Findhorn OK but could definitely be a culture shock from southern England. We live Oban on the west coast.

s2kjock

1,746 posts

153 months

Saturday 30th July 2022
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Skyedriver said:
Elgin not what we expected, ditto Lossiemouth, Buckie, etc
What were you expecting out of interest? I haven't been to Buckie for 30 years so no idea what it is like now. The others I do know fairly well.

Findhorn is lovely, but busy in the summer and house prices are (relatively) high - closest we get to the "English Riviera" biggrin - always seems bleak in the winter as there isn't much protection from the wind tearing in from the Moray Firth. Bay looks good on paper for boating activities, but it does dry out a lot at low water with a tricky access to outside.

tonyg58

376 posts

205 months

Saturday 30th July 2022
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There is a definite micro climate in the Moray Firth area (it was one of the reasons the RAF bases were built there).
It is referred to in Eric Brown's autobiography as the "Lossie Hole"
If you are coming up the A96 in an open topped car in summer you usually feel it (approximately) when you reach the Fochabers roundabout.
The temperature can climb about 2 centigrade just as you pass there.