Glasgow - First for the new LEZ's

[jshell]

Well done, you win! What fecking spackery is this?

And, does anyone know the extent of these proposed LEZ's? I cannot find any areas or maps for the proposals anywhere- and that worries me!

[H.7]

From glasgowlive.co.uk :

“The final design of the zone will be informed by the Transport Scotland ‘Building Scotland’s Low Emission Zones’ consultation - ongoing until November 28.

You can also share your views on Twitter using the hashtag #lezconsultation.”

[jshell]

H.7 said:

From glasgowlive.co.uk :

“The final design of the zone will be informed by the Transport Scotland ‘Building Scotland’s Low Emission Zones’ consultation - ongoing until November 28.

You can also share your views on Twitter using the hashtag #lezconsultation.”

How can they consult without publishing the extent of the zone? Do you want LEZ? Yeah! It's the whole city. Erm....

[alangla]

As I said on the last thread, come back when the early Euro buses and taxis have been eradicated.

Was passed by an 06 plate (so probably Euro 3 or something) First Bus earlier in the week with clouds of soot/smoke/particulates blowing out the exhaust. Deal with them first.

[caelite]

There is actually a full consultation of this up now, I filled it in today.

https://consult.scotland.gov.uk/transport-scotland...

[caelite]

alangla said:

As I said on the last thread, come back when the early Euro buses and taxis have been eradicated.

Was passed by an 06 plate (so probably Euro 3 or something) First Bus earlier in the week with clouds of soot/smoke/particulates blowing out the exhaust. Deal with them first.

There was a T reg coach sitting outside Anniesland college the other week. Made a nice puff of smoke as it pulled away

[alangla]

Edinburgh planning to surcharge residents with parking permits attached to diesel cars - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-ea...

[jshell]

alangla said:

Edinburgh planning to surcharge residents with parking permits attached to diesel cars - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-ea...

https://consultationhub.edinburgh.gov.uk/sfc/parki...

[sandman77]

Anybody that has had the pleasure of walking down Union Street, Renfield Street or Hope Street will tell you that the biggest problem is all the buses that drive around the city centre. There is a huge bus station at the north end of the city so why cant all buses go directly here and have a fleet of smaller low emission buses that circulate the city centre for the infirm? not only would it vastly improve air quality but also reduce the amount of pedestrians that get knocked down every year. Its not rocket science!

[A.J.M]

Because you can’t make money buy doing that.

[alangla]

Update - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west...

For the first time in my life I think I agree with Friends of the earth - what's the point doing this if it doesn't insist on all taxis being Euro 6 by a date fairly soon? If all the ancient buses and taxis chucking out clouds of particulates were removed then the worst of the city centre pollution spots would be largely fixed overnight.

[A.J.M]

Upgrading exhaust systems, so fitting DPF's and such.

All well known for clogging up if driven around towns for extended periods and failing, causing expensive bills.

Not exactly a superb solution to the issue is it?

[caelite]

A.J.M said:

Upgrading exhaust systems, so fitting DPF's and such.

All well known for clogging up if driven around towns for extended periods and failing, causing expensive bills.

Not exactly a superb solution to the issue is it?

Would suit taxis and buses though. What kills them is stopping and starting the engine. If it is running all the time, as buses and taxis often are then the chances of them clogging is reduced, however for in-town driving they will likely be a bit smokey for ~30minutes every few days when they are regening.

Personally I like the solution far more than I originally feared, personally I was in favour of letting the air qualities resolve themselves over time, air quality in the UK is the best it has been since the industrial revolution, and is gradually improving. However just targeting buses, as they are is likely the best means of lowering pollution without declaring an all out war on the poorer motorists needing to commute in and out of the city. Glasgow does not have the transport links, nor the wealth of London, so a London style catch-all LEZ would simply have been unworkable.

Edited by caelite on Sunday 18th March 00:14