A year's ban - guilty by dashcam
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http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/de...
As more and more vehicles have dash cams, and the sharing of the clips online is easier, and the media struggling for stories, there is a good chance that there is going to be a lot more of this kind of conviction.
Guy here was an idiot and was close to causing a head on collision. Not sure in my own mind whether a year's ban is justified - of course if I was on the receiving end of his driving I would want a life ban but it could just have been a bad day / bad error of judgement. As a result he may have lost his job and potentially family suffer as a result, who knows?
I like to think I am a safe driver but I am even more cautious when driving the works van that has company information all over it - its so easy for someone to phone and complain!
As more and more vehicles have dash cams, and the sharing of the clips online is easier, and the media struggling for stories, there is a good chance that there is going to be a lot more of this kind of conviction.
Guy here was an idiot and was close to causing a head on collision. Not sure in my own mind whether a year's ban is justified - of course if I was on the receiving end of his driving I would want a life ban but it could just have been a bad day / bad error of judgement. As a result he may have lost his job and potentially family suffer as a result, who knows?
I like to think I am a safe driver but I am even more cautious when driving the works van that has company information all over it - its so easy for someone to phone and complain!
Hmmm, tricky subject IMO. On one hand you've got dash cam 'self pleasurers' uploading footage that really is an everyday, non incident but with a bit media attention can spiral into something bigger but then the other side of coin is something like this, which quite easily could have had one, two or more folks not going home for tea! The fact that the van driver carrys on with his overtake afterwards says to me he doesn't really give a toss and maybe deserves a break from driving.
So, aye, if used correctly (ie not goading someone into driving like a tit or being a tit yourself to get footage for your next video) then I guess there's some good being done.
So, aye, if used correctly (ie not goading someone into driving like a tit or being a tit yourself to get footage for your next video) then I guess there's some good being done.
bhstewie said:
Watching that he got what he deserved.
We all make mistakes, we all have bad days, but that wasn't a mistake and you need to learn not to take the bad days onto the road.
Agreed completely.We all make mistakes, we all have bad days, but that wasn't a mistake and you need to learn not to take the bad days onto the road.
After fking up like that, I reckon I'd have stopped and let myself calm down for a few minutes....not continued to try and get past the car in front.
Was very nearly a causing death by dd
ikarl said:
bhstewie said:
Watching that he got what he deserved.
We all make mistakes, we all have bad days, but that wasn't a mistake and you need to learn not to take the bad days onto the road.
Agreed completely.We all make mistakes, we all have bad days, but that wasn't a mistake and you need to learn not to take the bad days onto the road.
After fking up like that, I reckon I'd have stopped and let myself calm down for a few minutes....not continued to try and get past the car in front.
Was very nearly a causing death by dd
This tool drinks in my local. I wondered why his van had disappeared!
The van is left hand drive, not that is any excuse, but I'm sure it had a Polish registration on it until fairly recently. I'm not sure of the background to it all. He's old enough to know better though, long greasy grey hair, jeans and waistcoat. He's a bit of a joke.
I'll be in there on Monday, he's almost certain to appear with his poodle in tow at some point.
http://www.scotlandsworstdrivers.com/van-driven-by...
The van is left hand drive, not that is any excuse, but I'm sure it had a Polish registration on it until fairly recently. I'm not sure of the background to it all. He's old enough to know better though, long greasy grey hair, jeans and waistcoat. He's a bit of a joke.
I'll be in there on Monday, he's almost certain to appear with his poodle in tow at some point.
http://www.scotlandsworstdrivers.com/van-driven-by...
It's an interesting conundrum for the dashcam fetishists.
I have a dashcam, and have seen several examples of poor driving (not far off this level) but I apply a no-harm, no-foul rule to sharing any footage with the police.
In this case there was (amazingly) np harm, and yet there's a significant prosecution.
I have a dashcam, and have seen several examples of poor driving (not far off this level) but I apply a no-harm, no-foul rule to sharing any footage with the police.
In this case there was (amazingly) np harm, and yet there's a significant prosecution.
Evanivitch said:
It's an interesting conundrum for the dashcam fetishists.
I have a dashcam, and have seen several examples of poor driving (not far off this level) but I apply a no-harm, no-foul rule to sharing any footage with the police.
In this case there was (amazingly) no harm, and yet there's a significant prosecution.
risk of harm was off the scale in this case though.I have a dashcam, and have seen several examples of poor driving (not far off this level) but I apply a no-harm, no-foul rule to sharing any footage with the police.
In this case there was (amazingly) no harm, and yet there's a significant prosecution.
DCerebrate said:
No defending the guy in the van, but we didn't get the full picture of the cars coming in the other direction. It is possible that they were at high speed, and they seemed to be within 5 feet of each others' tails, to be bunched up like that?
I imagine they would have bunched up pretty quickly while doing an emergency stop to avoid the van! Even with a couple of car lengths between them when they all started to brake.Pretty good reactions all round really, the second can managed to avoid the van and get far enough onto the verge to avoid the car in front too.
Whilst in general I am not in favour of modern social media witch hunts, in this case I agree the van driver was a complete knuckle dragging fkwit who deserves every day of that ban.
There's not much going for him. It's obviously a corner. The road markings clearly show that overtaking there is not permitted. After oncoming traffic has to take the initiative to avoid his collision, he then carries on overtaking round the corner.
I'd suggest he lacks the mental functionality to be driving at all. As with most people whom I consider to be st drivers, it's not physical ability but a complete and utter attitude incompatibility with operating a motor vehicle that's wrong here.
There's not much going for him. It's obviously a corner. The road markings clearly show that overtaking there is not permitted. After oncoming traffic has to take the initiative to avoid his collision, he then carries on overtaking round the corner.
I'd suggest he lacks the mental functionality to be driving at all. As with most people whom I consider to be st drivers, it's not physical ability but a complete and utter attitude incompatibility with operating a motor vehicle that's wrong here.
jamieduff1981 said:
Whilst in general I am not in favour of modern social media witch hunts, in this case I agree the van driver was a complete knuckle dragging fkwit who deserves every day of that ban.
There's not much going for him. It's obviously a corner. The road markings clearly show that overtaking there is not permitted. After oncoming traffic has to take the initiative to avoid his collision, he then carries on overtaking round the corner.
I'd suggest he lacks the mental functionality to be driving at all. As with most people whom I consider to be st drivers, it's not physical ability but a complete and utter attitude incompatibility with operating a motor vehicle that's wrong here.
Couldn't have said it better myself.There's not much going for him. It's obviously a corner. The road markings clearly show that overtaking there is not permitted. After oncoming traffic has to take the initiative to avoid his collision, he then carries on overtaking round the corner.
I'd suggest he lacks the mental functionality to be driving at all. As with most people whom I consider to be st drivers, it's not physical ability but a complete and utter attitude incompatibility with operating a motor vehicle that's wrong here.
m3coupe said:
jamieduff1981 said:
Whilst in general I am not in favour of modern social media witch hunts, in this case I agree the van driver was a complete knuckle dragging fkwit who deserves every day of that ban.
There's not much going for him. It's obviously a corner. The road markings clearly show that overtaking there is not permitted. After oncoming traffic has to take the initiative to avoid his collision, he then carries on overtaking round the corner.
I'd suggest he lacks the mental functionality to be driving at all. As with most people whom I consider to be st drivers, it's not physical ability but a complete and utter attitude incompatibility with operating a motor vehicle that's wrong here.
Couldn't have said it better myself.There's not much going for him. It's obviously a corner. The road markings clearly show that overtaking there is not permitted. After oncoming traffic has to take the initiative to avoid his collision, he then carries on overtaking round the corner.
I'd suggest he lacks the mental functionality to be driving at all. As with most people whom I consider to be st drivers, it's not physical ability but a complete and utter attitude incompatibility with operating a motor vehicle that's wrong here.
Although I've seen some worse moves made on PH runs too.
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