A year's ban - guilty by dashcam

A year's ban - guilty by dashcam

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Craigie

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1,228 posts

185 months

Friday 2nd September 2016
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http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/de...

As more and more vehicles have dash cams, and the sharing of the clips online is easier, and the media struggling for stories, there is a good chance that there is going to be a lot more of this kind of conviction.

Guy here was an idiot and was close to causing a head on collision. Not sure in my own mind whether a year's ban is justified - of course if I was on the receiving end of his driving I would want a life ban but it could just have been a bad day / bad error of judgement. As a result he may have lost his job and potentially family suffer as a result, who knows?

I like to think I am a safe driver but I am even more cautious when driving the works van that has company information all over it - its so easy for someone to phone and complain!

Lugy

830 posts

189 months

Friday 2nd September 2016
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Hmmm, tricky subject IMO. On one hand you've got dash cam 'self pleasurers' uploading footage that really is an everyday, non incident but with a bit media attention can spiral into something bigger but then the other side of coin is something like this, which quite easily could have had one, two or more folks not going home for tea! The fact that the van driver carrys on with his overtake afterwards says to me he doesn't really give a toss and maybe deserves a break from driving.
So, aye, if used correctly (ie not goading someone into driving like a tit or being a tit yourself to get footage for your next video) then I guess there's some good being done.

bitchstewie

54,523 posts

216 months

Friday 2nd September 2016
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Watching that he got what he deserved.

We all make mistakes, we all have bad days, but that wasn't a mistake and you need to learn not to take the bad days onto the road.

ikarl

3,739 posts

205 months

Friday 2nd September 2016
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bhstewie said:
Watching that he got what he deserved.

We all make mistakes, we all have bad days, but that wasn't a mistake and you need to learn not to take the bad days onto the road.
Agreed completely.

After fking up like that, I reckon I'd have stopped and let myself calm down for a few minutes....not continued to try and get past the car in front.

Was very nearly a causing death by dd

heebeegeetee

28,956 posts

254 months

Friday 2nd September 2016
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ikarl said:
bhstewie said:
Watching that he got what he deserved.

We all make mistakes, we all have bad days, but that wasn't a mistake and you need to learn not to take the bad days onto the road.
Agreed completely.

After fking up like that, I reckon I'd have stopped and let myself calm down for a few minutes....not continued to try and get past the car in front.

Was very nearly a causing death by dd
+1

ModernAndy

2,094 posts

141 months

Friday 2nd September 2016
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that car that went on the verge though...

Perfect demonstration of why you should never ever tailgate.

mabosh

309 posts

192 months

Saturday 3rd September 2016
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This tool drinks in my local. I wondered why his van had disappeared!

The van is left hand drive, not that is any excuse, but I'm sure it had a Polish registration on it until fairly recently. I'm not sure of the background to it all. He's old enough to know better though, long greasy grey hair, jeans and waistcoat. He's a bit of a joke.

I'll be in there on Monday, he's almost certain to appear with his poodle in tow at some point.

http://www.scotlandsworstdrivers.com/van-driven-by...

sdkrc

116 posts

113 months

Sunday 4th September 2016
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If your livelihood depends on it, surely you'd be more risk averse?

Evanivitch

21,682 posts

128 months

Sunday 4th September 2016
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It's an interesting conundrum for the dashcam fetishists.

I have a dashcam, and have seen several examples of poor driving (not far off this level) but I apply a no-harm, no-foul rule to sharing any footage with the police.

In this case there was (amazingly) np harm, and yet there's a significant prosecution.

ikarl

3,739 posts

205 months

Monday 5th September 2016
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I reckon a few pairs of underpants were harmed in the making of that film

ModernAndy

2,094 posts

141 months

Monday 5th September 2016
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Evanivitch said:
It's an interesting conundrum for the dashcam fetishists.

I have a dashcam, and have seen several examples of poor driving (not far off this level) but I apply a no-harm, no-foul rule to sharing any footage with the police.

In this case there was (amazingly) no harm, and yet there's a significant prosecution.
risk of harm was off the scale in this case though.

DCerebrate

358 posts

116 months

Monday 5th September 2016
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No defending the guy in the van, but we didn't get the full picture of the cars coming in the other direction. It is possible that they were at high speed, and they seemed to be within 5 feet of each others' tails, to be bunched up like that?

zarjaz1991

3,715 posts

129 months

Monday 5th September 2016
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Standards of journalism (or lack of them) astound me:

"However the result of his reckless driving could of been fatal."

Arrrgh make it stop!

Speed addicted

5,689 posts

233 months

Wednesday 7th September 2016
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DCerebrate said:
No defending the guy in the van, but we didn't get the full picture of the cars coming in the other direction. It is possible that they were at high speed, and they seemed to be within 5 feet of each others' tails, to be bunched up like that?
I imagine they would have bunched up pretty quickly while doing an emergency stop to avoid the van! Even with a couple of car lengths between them when they all started to brake.
Pretty good reactions all round really, the second can managed to avoid the van and get far enough onto the verge to avoid the car in front too.


jamieduff1981

8,040 posts

146 months

Wednesday 7th September 2016
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Whilst in general I am not in favour of modern social media witch hunts, in this case I agree the van driver was a complete knuckle dragging fkwit who deserves every day of that ban.

There's not much going for him. It's obviously a corner. The road markings clearly show that overtaking there is not permitted. After oncoming traffic has to take the initiative to avoid his collision, he then carries on overtaking round the corner.

I'd suggest he lacks the mental functionality to be driving at all. As with most people whom I consider to be st drivers, it's not physical ability but a complete and utter attitude incompatibility with operating a motor vehicle that's wrong here.

m3coupe

1,104 posts

210 months

Sunday 11th September 2016
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jamieduff1981 said:
Whilst in general I am not in favour of modern social media witch hunts, in this case I agree the van driver was a complete knuckle dragging fkwit who deserves every day of that ban.

There's not much going for him. It's obviously a corner. The road markings clearly show that overtaking there is not permitted. After oncoming traffic has to take the initiative to avoid his collision, he then carries on overtaking round the corner.

I'd suggest he lacks the mental functionality to be driving at all. As with most people whom I consider to be st drivers, it's not physical ability but a complete and utter attitude incompatibility with operating a motor vehicle that's wrong here.
Couldn't have said it better myself.

DottyMR2

478 posts

133 months

Friday 16th September 2016
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m3coupe said:
jamieduff1981 said:
Whilst in general I am not in favour of modern social media witch hunts, in this case I agree the van driver was a complete knuckle dragging fkwit who deserves every day of that ban.

There's not much going for him. It's obviously a corner. The road markings clearly show that overtaking there is not permitted. After oncoming traffic has to take the initiative to avoid his collision, he then carries on overtaking round the corner.

I'd suggest he lacks the mental functionality to be driving at all. As with most people whom I consider to be st drivers, it's not physical ability but a complete and utter attitude incompatibility with operating a motor vehicle that's wrong here.
Couldn't have said it better myself.
I'm not one for supporting dash cam warriors but in this case, I can make an exception. Blind corner overtakers are some of the biggest menaces on the road. Nearly had head on accidents multiple times with plonkers cutting blind corners, overtaking other people through a blind section or overtaking em on a blind bend and nearly wiping me out when they swerve back in.

Although I've seen some worse moves made on PH runs too.