ADMC Boyndie Sprints - 26/06 & 27/06
Discussion
Reasonably. 8 class points in the HSC for both days but, if the truth be told, only as a result of a poor turnout from those entered in my class.
I have terminal clutch problems. It was slipping badly as I reached the power band in 2nd and 3rd. CT and I will be taking it apart this weekend with a view to fitting new springs and possibly friction plates.
Saturday stayed dry but there was a howling gale so everyone was frozen.
Sunday morning was actually too hot (particularly for those clad in nomex).
Sunday afternoon was monsoon season in Banff. The track was unsafe (standing water) until after 14:00 and needed a good deal of sweeping.
We did get two timed runs though. After the first very wet one, I noticed the time gap between me and the guy who always wipes the floor with the rest of the class had narrowed significantly.
On the second run, I went for it a bit too much and ended up pointing the wrong way after turn 3.
Next event is Alford on 18/07/04. Come along if you're doing nothing else.
Cheers,
N
>> Edited by Numptie on Tuesday 29th June 13:20
>> Edited by Numptie on Tuesday 29th June 13:22
I have terminal clutch problems. It was slipping badly as I reached the power band in 2nd and 3rd. CT and I will be taking it apart this weekend with a view to fitting new springs and possibly friction plates.
Saturday stayed dry but there was a howling gale so everyone was frozen.
Sunday morning was actually too hot (particularly for those clad in nomex).
Sunday afternoon was monsoon season in Banff. The track was unsafe (standing water) until after 14:00 and needed a good deal of sweeping.
We did get two timed runs though. After the first very wet one, I noticed the time gap between me and the guy who always wipes the floor with the rest of the class had narrowed significantly.
On the second run, I went for it a bit too much and ended up pointing the wrong way after turn 3.
Next event is Alford on 18/07/04. Come along if you're doing nothing else.
Cheers,
N
>> Edited by Numptie on Tuesday 29th June 13:20
>> Edited by Numptie on Tuesday 29th June 13:22
Aye Willie, it is indeed the blade
The plan is to replace the friction plates with Honda parts and to replace the springs with something else.
I've heard that Holeshot do a quality uprated spring. Do you have any recommendations?
BTW - for reasons I won't go into here, the engine oil was recently replaced with fully synth. This coincided with clutch slip problems starting. Oil now replaced with motorcycle mineral/synth mix no cure / getting worse. Any comment? (I have tried adjusting at the arm).
Cheers,
N
The plan is to replace the friction plates with Honda parts and to replace the springs with something else.
I've heard that Holeshot do a quality uprated spring. Do you have any recommendations?
BTW - for reasons I won't go into here, the engine oil was recently replaced with fully synth. This coincided with clutch slip problems starting. Oil now replaced with motorcycle mineral/synth mix no cure / getting worse. Any comment? (I have tried adjusting at the arm).
Cheers,
N
I had the benefit that I've a friend who's a Honda dealer, so I had the 'proper' manuals and good advice...one item of which was never put fully synthetic in or the clutch will slip You might just get away with taking the plates out and giving them a good clean down in solvent.
Note sure you really need stronger springs/better plates than standard...although all upgrades are nice and hard not to justify to the missus
Possibly the best upgrade you could do to the clutch(if you really wanted to spend something on upgraded parts) would be the clutch hub. The inner tongues of the clutch plates can dig in and make wee grooves in the hub splines. Normally though this would be with the clutch engaged, so the end result would be a clutch that was difficult/jerky to disengage as the plates would have to be forced out of their 'grooves'. I suppose if you got some wear on the hub splines it might make it harder work for the springs to engage the clutch, but that would be a long shot.
Its got to just be a 20 minute job to whip the plates out and clean them up. Assuming the engine's now clear of the synthetic it might just do the trick. There's not a lot of oil flow through the clutch plates, and it might just be the synthetic's 'bound' to the plates still.
As I'm sure you've guessed, it's just the clutch cover (a dozen or so screws) before you're at the clutch, then just the 6 (or 8?...can't remember) screws on the clutch springs, then hey presto it all falls out at your feet. Note that the tags on the top (outermost) plate don't sit in the same splines/grooves in the clutch outer/cage as the rest of the plates...there's a thought...has anyone had the clutch apart before and put the top plate in the wrong spline? It looks like it 'should' line up with all the other plates, but actually it has to be put in 'out of sync' by one spline. Shouldn't have to drain the oil either, but might need to jack the front up a wee bit to make sure its all in the sump to avoid a mess. But then you've probably worked all this lot out already
WB
You might just get away with taking the plates out and giving them a good clean down in solvent. Note sure you really need stronger springs/better plates than standard...although all upgrades are nice and hard not to justify to the missus
Possibly the best upgrade you could do to the clutch(if you really wanted to spend something on upgraded parts) would be the clutch hub. The inner tongues of the clutch plates can dig in and make wee grooves in the hub splines. Normally though this would be with the clutch engaged, so the end result would be a clutch that was difficult/jerky to disengage as the plates would have to be forced out of their 'grooves'. I suppose if you got some wear on the hub splines it might make it harder work for the springs to engage the clutch, but that would be a long shot.
Its got to just be a 20 minute job to whip the plates out and clean them up. Assuming the engine's now clear of the synthetic it might just do the trick. There's not a lot of oil flow through the clutch plates, and it might just be the synthetic's 'bound' to the plates still.
As I'm sure you've guessed, it's just the clutch cover (a dozen or so screws) before you're at the clutch, then just the 6 (or 8?...can't remember) screws on the clutch springs, then hey presto it all falls out at your feet. Note that the tags on the top (outermost) plate don't sit in the same splines/grooves in the clutch outer/cage as the rest of the plates...there's a thought...has anyone had the clutch apart before and put the top plate in the wrong spline? It looks like it 'should' line up with all the other plates, but actually it has to be put in 'out of sync' by one spline. Shouldn't have to drain the oil either, but might need to jack the front up a wee bit to make sure its all in the sump to avoid a mess. But then you've probably worked all this lot out already
WB
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