Manchester congestion charging proposal announced
Discussion
www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/s/234/234066_up_to_6_a_day_road_charge_due.html
Won't this push people onto the M602/M60 - which already suffer because they are used as rat-runs not motorways...
...or are there plans to do to the Eccles stretch what has already been done to the M56/6144 stretch, and make sure the traffic coming on and off doesn't affect people trying to use it as a ring road?
Won't this push people onto the M602/M60 - which already suffer because they are used as rat-runs not motorways...
...or are there plans to do to the Eccles stretch what has already been done to the M56/6144 stretch, and make sure the traffic coming on and off doesn't affect people trying to use it as a ring road?
Aye, it does my head in when people join the motorway, dawdle along at 49mph for 1 junction and get off again!
I'm not sure they're going the right way with traffic policy, they seem to be intent on closing off all the little short cuts/rat runs and funneling everyone down the main roads. I can see that the main roads are safer generally but it only takes one breakdown, one minor accident, one set of roadworks on one of these routes and then you're proverbially f****d
I'm not sure they're going the right way with traffic policy, they seem to be intent on closing off all the little short cuts/rat runs and funneling everyone down the main roads. I can see that the main roads are safer generally but it only takes one breakdown, one minor accident, one set of roadworks on one of these routes and then you're proverbially f****d
gordon burns said it wasn't definate
but they plan to put the charging on all major roads going into manchester.
(looking at a map, it just looked like they had decided to just put it on all major straight roads)
i personally think this is a terrible idea, its not going to reduce congestion, but just make money. and as already stated is going to make the M60 hell.
im not sure what will happen for the residents who need to get to work outside the area. i live on wilmslow road (one of the areas they're supposed to be doing) and my house mate works in denton. is he going to be penalized for having a job outside of manchester?
i agree that the congestion is bad in manchester, but surely there is another way
i imagine the story will be repeated on BBC local news, north west tonight, at 6.30 for anyone who wants to have a look.
but they plan to put the charging on all major roads going into manchester.
(looking at a map, it just looked like they had decided to just put it on all major straight roads)
i personally think this is a terrible idea, its not going to reduce congestion, but just make money. and as already stated is going to make the M60 hell.
im not sure what will happen for the residents who need to get to work outside the area. i live on wilmslow road (one of the areas they're supposed to be doing) and my house mate works in denton. is he going to be penalized for having a job outside of manchester?
i agree that the congestion is bad in manchester, but surely there is another way
i imagine the story will be repeated on BBC local news, north west tonight, at 6.30 for anyone who wants to have a look.
There's a PDF attached to the link I posted, in which it's easy to see what they're proposing.
It has to be ratified by someone or other first, so indeedy, it's not definite, but it's close to it by the sound of the article...
I live halfway between Bolton and Darwen, and as such my only way around the A666 is across Rivington west and then on obscure roads back in to come east again, which is great fun and I regularly go that way for kicks.
Or through Kearsley, which I sometimes do already and in fact at 7am is the quickest way. At 8am there is NO quick way. I'm hoping "peak times" doesn't mean 6am, because I know from experience the tipping point is actually more like 7, and I'm not getting up at 0430 to save 6 quid...
It has to be ratified by someone or other first, so indeedy, it's not definite, but it's close to it by the sound of the article...
I live halfway between Bolton and Darwen, and as such my only way around the A666 is across Rivington west and then on obscure roads back in to come east again, which is great fun and I regularly go that way for kicks.
Or through Kearsley, which I sometimes do already and in fact at 7am is the quickest way. At 8am there is NO quick way. I'm hoping "peak times" doesn't mean 6am, because I know from experience the tipping point is actually more like 7, and I'm not getting up at 0430 to save 6 quid...
Somebody, somewhere ough to tell those ******s what's what, public transport - b******s. I don't go to work to buy a car and then have some nutcase I didn't vote for think that I will leave the car at home and get the bus and I'm sure as heck not paying to use my car to fund a bus I'm not goung to use. As for an eletronic gps tag that monitors where the car is past sensors - in the words of Father Jack 'Feck off'.
I live on the A56 between Bury and Manchester - Congestion, what congestion, the road's pretty clear 99% of the time. The only difficulties are in the morning with the school run, which once past Prestwich its an easy run into town.
Anyone heard of any public consultations?
I live on the A56 between Bury and Manchester - Congestion, what congestion, the road's pretty clear 99% of the time. The only difficulties are in the morning with the school run, which once past Prestwich its an easy run into town.
Anyone heard of any public consultations?
It is hard to tell from the link how they will charge. The corridor borders, what is the purpose of those? I can understand the border crossing the corridor (though it looks a way out from Manchester centre) but what are the borders between corridors?
Will you only pay going into the centre or using the corridor in either direction. If so the public transport better be good else there mightn't be any point in me going to work
Will you only pay going into the centre or using the corridor in either direction. If so the public transport better be good else there mightn't be any point in me going to work
Edited by MalcQV on Friday 26th January 13:30
I don't go into Manchester city centre much, but this map shows that if I want to go anywhere I will have to travel some way on one of the marked roads!!!! Even to shop in Asda will cost me! as I generally shop on either the way to or from work!
Live in East Manchester work in Altrincham. This means that virtually every road I use in normal daily travelling is going to be subject to a charge!
I will have to think long and hard whether it is worth continuing in this employment if this does happen.
Also, what about the people who work in the centre of town on a minimum wage? This will kill off Manchester as a place to have a small business. They have also suggested that they will introduce all day and night parking fees. This will stop a lot of people going into Manchester at night for meals etc. I certainly will not travel on public transport late at night!
As someone else said the Trafford Centre will get a lot more business!
Ellie
Live in East Manchester work in Altrincham. This means that virtually every road I use in normal daily travelling is going to be subject to a charge!
I will have to think long and hard whether it is worth continuing in this employment if this does happen.
Also, what about the people who work in the centre of town on a minimum wage? This will kill off Manchester as a place to have a small business. They have also suggested that they will introduce all day and night parking fees. This will stop a lot of people going into Manchester at night for meals etc. I certainly will not travel on public transport late at night!
As someone else said the Trafford Centre will get a lot more business!
Ellie
if you read the article with the map it states
Cars would be fitted with satellite technology or windscreen-mounted `tags' that could be tracked automatically by electronic scanners positioned at key points along each corridor.
Each corrider as they put it just happens to also be a junction for the M60 so you can't get to it without paying. I bet the key points include each side of the M60 junctions. Stroke of genious? Dont toll the motorway and clogg the roads even more with cars avoiding the charge. Screw the lot of us.
Stealth tax!!!! F***ing Hard faced
Cars would be fitted with satellite technology or windscreen-mounted `tags' that could be tracked automatically by electronic scanners positioned at key points along each corridor.
Each corrider as they put it just happens to also be a junction for the M60 so you can't get to it without paying. I bet the key points include each side of the M60 junctions. Stroke of genious? Dont toll the motorway and clogg the roads even more with cars avoiding the charge. Screw the lot of us.
Stealth tax!!!! F***ing Hard faced
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