Mottram / Hollingworth / Tintwistle Bypass. epetition.
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Mottram / Hollingworth / Tintwistle Bypass.
Visit http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/16940 to register your support.
Just posting this up to try to get some support for this e petition. Anyone who has driven this area knows it a pain and will have sat in various queue’s.
If it ever gets built – which I think will be a big if – this could make accessing the nice roads of the Peak District a little easier!
http://menmedia.co.uk/glossopadvertiser/news/s/146...
A commuter is calling on residents to sign a new petition in a bid to revive plans for the failed Mottram-Tintwistle bypass.
Carl Burbidge hopes the online campaign will force ministers to raise the issue in the House of Commons.
Thousands of people pass through Tintwistle, Mottram and Hollingworth every day – making the stretch of the A57 one of the busiest roads in the country.
Carl, of Bowland Road, Simmondley, works in Wilmslow and says he chooses to commute via the back roads rather than brave rush-hour traffic.
The 37-year-old said: "Mottram Moor is the only place in the UK where you have to queue in traffic on a Sunday morning and if something isn’t done soon, the whole area will grind to a halt. I got the idea from the EU vote in the Commons on Monday and decided to put it forward.
"That debate came about after a successful e-petition so with enough support this will make the government sit up and listen about the bypass.
"The current government – and all previous governments – have failed residents by continuously refusing to build this relief road. The only solution is to force the government to debate this issue in parliament.
"This has been going on for years and years and I know there’s a large amount of support for it in the area. Residents have suffered enough."
The Highways Agency withdrew from a public inquiry into the bypass in 2009 and Tameside council’s scaled-down proposal was not included in schemes eligible for coalition government funding earlier this year.
MP Andrew Bingham added: "E-petitions are not there for MPs to sign, they are there for members of the public. But if he does get the signatures required and it gets approved by the backbench committee, I will support it."
Not all residents agree with the relief road and anti-bypass campaign groups have been set up.
Pat Ellison, from the Alternative Proposals for Transport group, said: "I certainly won’t be signing it.
"All the evidence shows bypasses only increase the volume of traffic over time – a bypass would do nothing for the area."
Carl’s petition – entitled, Deliver Mottram.Hollingworth/ Tintwistle Bypass Now – calls on the government ‘to approve the scheme without further delay or consultation and make the funds available now without any more excuses. The residents have suffered enough and deserve this relief road.’
Visit http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/16940 to register your support.
Visit http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/16940 to register your support.
Just posting this up to try to get some support for this e petition. Anyone who has driven this area knows it a pain and will have sat in various queue’s.
If it ever gets built – which I think will be a big if – this could make accessing the nice roads of the Peak District a little easier!
http://menmedia.co.uk/glossopadvertiser/news/s/146...
A commuter is calling on residents to sign a new petition in a bid to revive plans for the failed Mottram-Tintwistle bypass.
Carl Burbidge hopes the online campaign will force ministers to raise the issue in the House of Commons.
Thousands of people pass through Tintwistle, Mottram and Hollingworth every day – making the stretch of the A57 one of the busiest roads in the country.
Carl, of Bowland Road, Simmondley, works in Wilmslow and says he chooses to commute via the back roads rather than brave rush-hour traffic.
The 37-year-old said: "Mottram Moor is the only place in the UK where you have to queue in traffic on a Sunday morning and if something isn’t done soon, the whole area will grind to a halt. I got the idea from the EU vote in the Commons on Monday and decided to put it forward.
"That debate came about after a successful e-petition so with enough support this will make the government sit up and listen about the bypass.
"The current government – and all previous governments – have failed residents by continuously refusing to build this relief road. The only solution is to force the government to debate this issue in parliament.
"This has been going on for years and years and I know there’s a large amount of support for it in the area. Residents have suffered enough."
The Highways Agency withdrew from a public inquiry into the bypass in 2009 and Tameside council’s scaled-down proposal was not included in schemes eligible for coalition government funding earlier this year.
MP Andrew Bingham added: "E-petitions are not there for MPs to sign, they are there for members of the public. But if he does get the signatures required and it gets approved by the backbench committee, I will support it."
Not all residents agree with the relief road and anti-bypass campaign groups have been set up.
Pat Ellison, from the Alternative Proposals for Transport group, said: "I certainly won’t be signing it.
"All the evidence shows bypasses only increase the volume of traffic over time – a bypass would do nothing for the area."
Carl’s petition – entitled, Deliver Mottram.Hollingworth/ Tintwistle Bypass Now – calls on the government ‘to approve the scheme without further delay or consultation and make the funds available now without any more excuses. The residents have suffered enough and deserve this relief road.’
Visit http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/16940 to register your support.
They've been talking of building that since I was at school in Hollingworth and I'll be 50 next year. I doubt it'll be done before I retire. I doubt even more that an e-petition will change that.
...and if it does get built, yes, it'll make getting through Mottram/Hollingworth/etc easier (I've just bought a house in Charlesworth). Woodhead will be chocka with HGVs so you'll be lucky to do 40mph over there and Denton junction of the M67/60 will be solid more often than it is now.
It'll also mean even more traffic getting to those "nice roads of the Peak District" so they won't be quite as nice. Think of all the "Sunday drivers" that'll mean, doing 30 over the Snake Pass. It's bad enough now.
I think this is a case of "be carefull what you wish for"...
...and if it does get built, yes, it'll make getting through Mottram/Hollingworth/etc easier (I've just bought a house in Charlesworth). Woodhead will be chocka with HGVs so you'll be lucky to do 40mph over there and Denton junction of the M67/60 will be solid more often than it is now.
It'll also mean even more traffic getting to those "nice roads of the Peak District" so they won't be quite as nice. Think of all the "Sunday drivers" that'll mean, doing 30 over the Snake Pass. It's bad enough now.
I think this is a case of "be carefull what you wish for"...
Annoying stuff, especially watching the Alderley Edge by-pass being developed, constructed and opened in 5 years!
But lets face it, rich people have priority in this country. The incompetance of successive local authorities and the highways agency have ensured the economic stagnation of this area; no investment <-> no jobs <-> no transport links.
But lets face it, rich people have priority in this country. The incompetance of successive local authorities and the highways agency have ensured the economic stagnation of this area; no investment <-> no jobs <-> no transport links.
Nickelson23 said:
zeb said:
Always bemused me why they never used the old woodhead railway line as someone has already gone to the trouble of doing the tunnels etc
Because someone (Me) has been installing electricity cables through it 
.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Irxz5VPKmawb
Thanks for that..never seen that footage before. Still think it would make a good road (and now with decent tunnel runs in it!)
Was on the mottram road yesterday going sheffield to manchester, took best part of 40 minutes from the village to the M67. Its crap, always has been and like it says on the petition, its the only place I know where you have to queue on a sunday morning.
Was on the mottram road yesterday going sheffield to manchester, took best part of 40 minutes from the village to the M67. Its crap, always has been and like it says on the petition, its the only place I know where you have to queue on a sunday morning.
AdiT said:
They've been talking of building that since I was at school in Hollingworth and I'll be 50 next year. I doubt it'll be done before I retire. I doubt even more that an e-petition will change that.
...and if it does get built, yes, it'll make getting through Mottram/Hollingworth/etc easier (I've just bought a house in Charlesworth). Woodhead will be chocka with HGVs so you'll be lucky to do 40mph over there and Denton junction of the M67/60 will be solid more often than it is now.
It'll also mean even more traffic getting to those "nice roads of the Peak District" so they won't be quite as nice. Think of all the "Sunday drivers" that'll mean, doing 30 over the Snake Pass. It's bad enough now.
I think this is a case of "be carefull what you wish for"...
Good point, I never really saw past the local blockage problem. ...and if it does get built, yes, it'll make getting through Mottram/Hollingworth/etc easier (I've just bought a house in Charlesworth). Woodhead will be chocka with HGVs so you'll be lucky to do 40mph over there and Denton junction of the M67/60 will be solid more often than it is now.
It'll also mean even more traffic getting to those "nice roads of the Peak District" so they won't be quite as nice. Think of all the "Sunday drivers" that'll mean, doing 30 over the Snake Pass. It's bad enough now.
I think this is a case of "be carefull what you wish for"...
As you say, the bypass will just lead to bottlenecks across the tops. Whatever the solution for Mottram etc, it still leads to a single carriageway across the hills.
I suppose if it continues to get worse it might encourage people to go the [very] long way around using the 62?
spogxy said:
Good point, I never really saw past the local blockage problem.
As you say, the bypass will just lead to bottlenecks across the tops. Whatever the solution for Mottram etc, it still leads to a single carriageway across the hills.
I suppose if it continues to get worse it might encourage people to go the [very] long way around using the 62?
Cheapest way of sorting it is stick a 15T weight limit on there. Half a dozen signs to pay for and most of the HGV's go away (around the M62), traffic flow increases and hold-ups reduce.As you say, the bypass will just lead to bottlenecks across the tops. Whatever the solution for Mottram etc, it still leads to a single carriageway across the hills.
I suppose if it continues to get worse it might encourage people to go the [very] long way around using the 62?
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