A31 WESTBOUND CLOSED AT POULNER HILL
A31 WESTBOUND CLOSED AT POULNER HILL
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Alucidnation

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16,810 posts

185 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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Heads up, although im sure most may have already heard.

As title.

Looks like someone thought the layby was the turn off for either Hightown or maybe ringwood and ploughed into the back of a parked truck.

http://www.itv.com/news/meridian/2012-10-16/a31-cl...




Edited by Alucidnation on Tuesday 16th October 17:26

breadvan

2,086 posts

183 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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Terrible site.

Westbound traffic comming off M27 at J2, avoid the area if you can, head north. Eastbound fine.

Alucidnation

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Tuesday 16th October 2012
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breadvan said:
Terrible site.

Westbound traffic comming off M27 at J2, avoid the area if you can, head north. Eastbound fine.
Did you go past it?

I bet it looked more than terrible.

GT03ROB

13,816 posts

236 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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Alucidnation said:
Did you go past it?

I bet it looked more than terrible.
I went past at 6:30 this morning. Quite a mess. It hit the truck at a fair speed,

Alucidnation

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Tuesday 16th October 2012
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GT03ROB said:
I went past at 6:30 this morning. Quite a mess. It hit the truck at a fair speed,
I am guessing, he was not very familiar with the area, and thought it was either the Poulner exit, Hightown exit, or just a layby that he was pulling into too fast.

He may of course, have fallen asleep at the wheel.

That hill can easily catch you out, especially in the dark.

Alucidnation

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Tuesday 16th October 2012
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Looks like the man was from Ringwood.

breadvan

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Tuesday 16th October 2012
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Its just a hop over the crash barrier to where that breakdown chap was killed a few years ago in a similar fashion.

I've heard rumours of the limit being lowered to 50 along this stretch and quite frankly I can see why, its a poor stretch of unlit road.

Dogwatch

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237 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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breadvan said:
Its just a hop over the crash barrier to where that breakdown chap was killed a few years ago in a similar fashion.

I've heard rumours of the limit being lowered to 50 along this stretch and quite frankly I can see why, its a poor stretch of unlit road.
I remember them working on dualling that bit in the 60's (I think). Came upon the finished product some years later and wasn't very impressed, though I suppose it was an improvement on the original single carriageway.

Alucidnation

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Tuesday 16th October 2012
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breadvan said:
Its just a hop over the crash barrier to where that breakdown chap was killed a few years ago in a similar fashion.

I've heard rumours of the limit being lowered to 50 along this stretch and quite frankly I can see why, its a poor stretch of unlit road.
I am 100% against the lowering of speed limits unnecessarily, however, if there is one stretch of road that needs it, it is this one.

Basically from the top of the hill to just past Ashley heath flyover, back to NSL for the next mile or so, until it drops back down to the 50 thats already there on the A31.

The slip roads around Ringwood are chaos at peak times, but they were built and designed many many years ago, when the volume of traffic around the area was much lower.

With the speed limit reduced here, it would allow traffic to safely move for the exit slips, and the main Bournemouth turn off, and theoretically give the traffic exiting Ringwood half a chance of getting out.

Where the limits have been lowered just passed the Matchams turnoff down the spur road has kinda worked in reducing build up at busy exits quite a bit.



GT03ROB

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236 months

Wednesday 17th October 2012
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Alucidnation said:
I am 100% against the lowering of speed limits unnecessarily, however, if there is one stretch of road that needs it, it is this one.

Basically from the top of the hill to just past Ashley heath flyover, back to NSL for the next mile or so, until it drops back down to the 50 thats already there on the A31.

The slip roads around Ringwood are chaos at peak times, but they were built and designed many many years ago, when the volume of traffic around the area was much lower.

With the speed limit reduced here, it would allow traffic to safely move for the exit slips, and the main Bournemouth turn off, and theoretically give the traffic exiting Ringwood half a chance of getting out.

Where the limits have been lowered just passed the Matchams turnoff down the spur road has kinda worked in reducing build up at busy exits quite a bit.
To be honest I think the whole of the Ringwood junction needs looking at & re-engineered. Won't be cheap, but it's downright unsafe at present.

Silver940

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242 months

Wednesday 17th October 2012
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Saw the aftermath yesterday morning, very sobering.

Lowering of the limits would help if people obey them but it could do with more than that, most of the slip roads are way to short. There are several juntions and house driveways that exit onto that section as well.

GT03ROB

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Monday 25th February 2013
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...and yet another fatal crash last night.

What will it take for them to do something to the section fom Ringwood to Ashley Heath?

Alucidnation

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Monday 25th February 2013
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Tell me about it.

I have tried 3 ways to get out of Ringwood and failed miserably, ad so i am now back at home.

One road where i think serious action needs to be taken is that one.

They fked it up when they did it years ago, and for some reason are now avoiding the issue.

50MPH from Poulner hill WILL improve traffic flow and reduce the accident/fatality rate, however many reasons 'why not' you throw at it.



Apparently, one fatality (daughters school collegue), involving her on her moped and several vehicles.

All happened around 8pm last night.

Silver940

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nick1275

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185 months

Monday 25th February 2013
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I'm not for one second blaming either party, but mopeds and duel carriageways are an accident waiting to happen, even with a moped flat out the closing speed between one and a car at nsl is huge.

miln0039

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173 months

Monday 25th February 2013
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Tragic frown

I remember riding a 50cc moped when I was 16. You're talking 31-33 on the flat, the A31 has inclines too so that speed could vary by +/- 4. It's a vulnerable place to be at the best of times, let alone using a dual carriageway like the A31 (it ought to be actively discouraged as part of the CBT, it might already be - it has been 10 years since I did mine)- and now we can see just how vulnerable.

Such a waste at 16 frown RIP.

nick1275

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Monday 25th February 2013
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Exactly, I saw what was left this morning, wasn't a nice sight. Where it happened is four lanes wide, if she was heading towards Ferndown it would of meant she could of been sat In in the middle of the four lanes doing 30 ish with cars whizzing past both sides at nsl. It's a good stretch of road to whitness appalling standards of driving

Alucidnation

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Monday 25th February 2013
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Agreed.

She was either coming from Verwood, and moving into Lane 2 to go up to the flyover to come back to Ringwood, or was going from Ringwood to either Bournemouth or towards Ferndown.

Very sad.

I wonder what excuses the HA will come up with for again, not dealing with this repeated problem.

spike ST500

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170 months

Monday 25th February 2013
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Very sad... frown

Perhaps a minimum speed of vehicles should be placed on high speed roads, as motorways have.

Not good that bit of road

GT03ROB

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Tuesday 26th February 2013
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spike ST500 said:
Very sad... frown

Perhaps a minimum speed of vehicles should be placed on high speed roads, as motorways have.

Not good that bit of road
Fair comment, but changing limits along that section is only part of the issue. The whole section need re-engineering, it's dangerous at any speed. I've stopped using the Texaco garage to stop off for things on the way home as at night it's just too dangerous to pull out from stationary virtually straight into traffic travelling at 50-70mph. The next section where the girl was killed is chaos with traffic cutting across lanes from both directions. I've lost track of the number of times I have cars cut across two lanes in front of me to make the Bournemouth turn off. I'll wager this is what happened to the poor girl.