av. speed cameras m4 j18-19

av. speed cameras m4 j18-19

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coanda

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2,649 posts

196 months

Thursday 10th December 2009
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Just a heads up - there are now average speed cameras on the roadworks between junctions 18 and 19 - both directions. I only travel that way in the dark now so I can't be sure they aren't just covering the motorway maintenance blokes within the roadworks.

There are no speed camera signs, reduced speed limits in force, or other signs to tell us if they are active or not. At least one camera is hidden behind a message board and they're using floodlights next to another camera on the Bristol bound side. - whether that is related to the camera or the roadworks I don't know, but it must be a pain in the arse for people driving into those lights.

coanda

MadDad

3,835 posts

267 months

Thursday 10th December 2009
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I think these are a hangover from the roadworks earlier this year, there is another set on the M5 where the roadworks were recently - roadworks have all gone but the scamera's are still there. I don't believe its possible to issue a fpn from a speed camera unless there are the scamera warning signs.

At least I hope they are a hangover from the roadworks as I have just passed them.................... whistle

coanda

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2,649 posts

196 months

Thursday 10th December 2009
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Hey,

I do that route every week day, and just noticed them this morning, although I was away mon and tues. I think they went up on Tuesday night. As you say, I believe that they have to have warning signs etc if they are to use operational Av. Speed Cameras.

I've had a look on the highways agency website and it looks like this stretch of the m4 is going to get dug up for the next few months - the central reservation is going to have the metal fence replaced with a concrete wall. I think they are getting the hard shoulder ready for heavy use.

I expect these cameras to go live soon. Although I note they've left a load on the M5 just south of the almondsbury interchange. The sensors are covered but there are no 'camera not in use' signs....scare tactics?.

Slagathore

5,927 posts

198 months

Thursday 10th December 2009
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Ahh, perfect.

Something else to slow the already slow traffic down.


TheDetailDoctor

8,827 posts

216 months

Friday 11th December 2009
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Was about to post the same, noticed these yesterday too. Although I have to admit I hope they are not operational yet......judge

MadDad

3,835 posts

267 months

Friday 11th December 2009
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I am commuting from Reading-ish to Torquay and back every week, I am doing circa 200 miles each way which up until a couple of weeks ago had about 40 miles of roadworks - was just getting used to a decent run there and back and you lot ruin my weekend by letting me know that there is more to come....... frown

coanda

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2,649 posts

196 months

Saturday 12th December 2009
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No probs, here to help wink

Anyway, these cameras are curious. there are two to a pole and they point in opposite directions. A couple are floodlit and the others are not.

AngryApples

5,449 posts

271 months

Saturday 12th December 2009
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furious


as I said a while ago, WTF dont they just make the whole M5/M4 50MPH



Also, the Avonmouth bridge surface is nothing short of a disgrace - it may well be smoothed out from the previous bumps, but the grooves left behind from the changed roadworks lanes are a total PITA

coanda

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2,649 posts

196 months

Tuesday 15th December 2009
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And now they have camera not in use signs next to them...but those floodlights were still on....

rs1952

5,247 posts

265 months

Saturday 19th December 2009
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AngryApples said:
furious
as I said a while ago, WTF dont they just make the whole M5/M4 50MPH
Dont give them ideas wink

bramley

1,671 posts

214 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2009
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coanda said:
And now they have camera not in use signs next to them...but those floodlights were still on....
I hope they were still inactive on Saturday night whistle

Huff

3,216 posts

197 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2009
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Passed them both ways over yesterday, still clearly signed as inactive.

CatherineJ

9,586 posts

249 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2009
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I'm guessing they will get going on the work after christmas. I'm confused by the introduction of these concrete walls as barriers. Are they supposed to be safer?

rs1952

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265 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2009
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CatherineJ said:
I'm confused by the introduction of these concrete walls as barriers. Are they supposed to be safer?
Apparently, yes.

Perceived wisdom appears to be that these things are never hit head on at speed - there is always a degree of angle involved.

Therefore, so peceived wisdom goes, there is no chance of a vehicle penetrating the concrete barrier (as there is with the metal or wire ones) and fouling the opposite carriageway.

CatherineJ

9,586 posts

249 months

Wednesday 23rd December 2009
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rs1952 said:
CatherineJ said:
I'm confused by the introduction of these concrete walls as barriers. Are they supposed to be safer?
Apparently, yes.

Perceived wisdom appears to be that these things are never hit head on at speed - there is always a degree of angle involved.

Therefore, so peceived wisdom goes, there is no chance of a vehicle penetrating the concrete barrier (as there is with the metal or wire ones) and fouling the opposite carriageway.
As it's Christmas and i'm sat chilling I looked them up on ye old tinterweb. Apparently they are stepped so that a vehicle of less than 13 tons should only touch the lower step with it's wheels.

coanda

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196 months

Wednesday 23rd December 2009
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If you use the motorway East of Swindon you'll see what they are going to put up. It seems that the main advantage is that it will only close one carriageway in an accident. I bet this would cause more damage on that one carriageway as the concrete bounces the vehicle back into the road.

Anyway - there are signs up saying 4th Jan is the first day for roadworks kickoff for about 3 months. Yay.



Edited by coanda on Wednesday 23 December 14:34

Slagathore

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198 months

Tuesday 12th January 2010
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The ones on the M5 at Cribbs are now working.

Still no sign of the ones along the M4 working yet. Probably won't be long now?

TheLurker

1,407 posts

202 months

Tuesday 12th January 2010
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Some of the poles dont even have cameras on yet.

I thought the roadworks were starting at the begining of Jan? No signs of work starting yet (except a few lorrys in those big layby things at the side of the motorway).

Slagathore

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198 months

Tuesday 12th January 2010
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Yeah, the M4 ones are still not working.

Someone mentioned the M5 above, so thought I'd mention it.

Between 17 and 16 on the M5 there are average speed cameras, only on the north bound side.

I only use the M5 to get on to the M4, so there might be more on the M5, but I just noticed those on the way in to work this morning.

TheDetailDoctor

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216 months

Monday 18th January 2010
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Well, looks like they may be working now. THe roadworks are in place & the signs about the cameras not working have gone.