Congestion charging in Brissle
Discussion
GMS 500 said:
"When significant improvement have been made to public transport"... Yeah right!
I would 
but we all know they'll claim the improvements have happened and instigate it anyway. Which, as TFL (who charge 8 quid) only make a profit on their congestion charge because of the fines, is going to be an unmitigated disaster. I'm with Glen
GlenMH said:
You're too liberal. 
These "tax the workers more" scum should be lined up on College Green and shot. Less people on the planet has got to be good for polar bears, Let's start with these unproductive parasites.
LET THE CULL COMMENCE!!!!!!How do I short central Bristol property? Oh hang on I'm too late.....
The cvnts have been desperate to introduce a CC for ages.
Pretty much all the road schemes of recent years have been geared to make travel into and across Bristol worse and worse, thus creating the congestion that they will then want to charge us to "remove".
Public transport in and around Bristol is a complete joke and only mahoosive investment in roads & subsidised services would have any impact. As that's not going to happen, we'll get lumbered with a "travelling to work" tax whether we like it or not.
Pretty much all the road schemes of recent years have been geared to make travel into and across Bristol worse and worse, thus creating the congestion that they will then want to charge us to "remove".
Public transport in and around Bristol is a complete joke and only mahoosive investment in roads & subsidised services would have any impact. As that's not going to happen, we'll get lumbered with a "travelling to work" tax whether we like it or not.
As an outsider but a regular visitor, if this were to go ahead, I simply wouldn't come into the city any more - mostly on principle. I know I'm only one person but I doubt I'm alone. Every night I stay on business in the city I pay a minimum of £125 into the local economy, not counting filling up at a petrol station in the town or nipping into the supermarket for bits and pieces.
Well done Bristol City Council. Thats £12,000 a year of contribution from me gone...
I don't really know enough about the city to start offering solutions to the congestion (which really isn't that bad compared to what I put up with in the SE) but a start would be the buslane on Redcliffe Way. Phasing the lights on the roundabouts on Temple Gate and on Redcliff Hill would help too.
Well done Bristol City Council. Thats £12,000 a year of contribution from me gone...
I don't really know enough about the city to start offering solutions to the congestion (which really isn't that bad compared to what I put up with in the SE) but a start would be the buslane on Redcliffe Way. Phasing the lights on the roundabouts on Temple Gate and on Redcliff Hill would help too.
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ingMitchT in another thread said:
I have noticed a dramatic increase in road congestion over the last few years. The government invented it to justify taxing us for global warming, which they also invented.
There would be significantly less road congestion if the 'powers-that-be' hadn't...
... Closed small local schools within walking distance and replaced them with larger 'central' shools that kids have to be transported to by road
... Introduced bus lanes that force all the traffic that's in two lanes into one
... Installed 'pinch-points' that make if difficult for cars to pass each other due to the narrow stretch of road that's only just wide enough, thus forcing them to slow down
... re-phased traffic lights to cause more queuing
It's all about tax. The more congested the roads are, the more petrol we burn, so the more petrol we have to buy, and thus the more we pay in fuel duty and VAT... and the more the government can blame us for causing pollution, which they'll also tax us for.
Amen brother!There would be significantly less road congestion if the 'powers-that-be' hadn't...
... Closed small local schools within walking distance and replaced them with larger 'central' shools that kids have to be transported to by road
... Introduced bus lanes that force all the traffic that's in two lanes into one
... Installed 'pinch-points' that make if difficult for cars to pass each other due to the narrow stretch of road that's only just wide enough, thus forcing them to slow down
... re-phased traffic lights to cause more queuing
It's all about tax. The more congested the roads are, the more petrol we burn, so the more petrol we have to buy, and thus the more we pay in fuel duty and VAT... and the more the government can blame us for causing pollution, which they'll also tax us for.
bo
ocks. That might make my recently-purchased Harbourside apartment a little less marketable in a couple of years then....
Having just started driving to work across the other side of the city I fully understand the anti-car sentiment from Bristol's traffic planners.
Every fecking light, every one, every pedestrian crossing.. Red! Always red. For ages. And still you have militants crossing slowly in front of you as you move off (On green). tts. Fecking tts. Tried to have an altercation with an old tt who wagged his finger at me in said circumstance today but sadly he was rather mutton jeff.
Rant over, ratings gentlemen? Not too much effort put in so be kind...
ocks. That might make my recently-purchased Harbourside apartment a little less marketable in a couple of years then....Having just started driving to work across the other side of the city I fully understand the anti-car sentiment from Bristol's traffic planners.
Every fecking light, every one, every pedestrian crossing.. Red! Always red. For ages. And still you have militant
s crossing slowly in front of you as you move off (On green). tts. Fecking tts. Tried to have an altercation with an old tt who wagged his finger at me in said circumstance today but sadly he was rather mutton jeff. Rant over, ratings gentlemen? Not too much effort put in so be kind...
carrotchomper said:
boocks.
Every fecking light, every one, every pedestrian crossing.. Red! Always red. For ages.
I'm glad you said that! It's not just me then, 2 weeks ago I took the Lotus out for a quick run & I had the same, every light was red, every fricking one. The councils game to get cars off the road worked, I was so frustrated I just drove hove, put the car away (& its not been out since) & got pissed instead. ocks. Every fecking light, every one, every pedestrian crossing.. Red! Always red. For ages.
carrotchomper said:
Having just started driving to work across the other side of the city I fully understand the anti-car sentiment from Bristol's traffic planners.
Oops. I think you fell for their bluff then!It used to be not too bad until they deliberately screwed with the traffic flow to deliberately cause congestion in order to discourage cross-centre journeys.
They even used to admit to this, until the tempting idea of congestion charging occurred to them. Now it's our fault, apparently.
Lying, scheming cvnts, the lot of 'em.
Also,
My mistake: it doesn't actually matter whether the scheme works, just that it brings in piles of filthy lucre.
BBC said:
Bristol City Council said it was not yet at the stage when it could specify the type of schemes that might be used, but that the same scheme would most likely be used in Bristol and Bath.
So, they're going to spend a small fortune on working out the best scheme and then apply it to both Bristol and Bath? Two more different cities I can't really imagine; how is one scheme going to be optimal for both?My mistake: it doesn't actually matter whether the scheme works, just that it brings in piles of filthy lucre.
Piglet said:
carrotchomper said:
boocks. That might make my recently-purchased Harbourside apartment a little less marketable in a couple of years then....
More marketable shirley??ocks. That might make my recently-purchased Harbourside apartment a little less marketable in a couple of years then....Anyone else on here noticed how fecking, utterly, brainbendingly annoying the traffic management feckup that is the "Showcase bus route" on Old Market? The lights appear to be on some sort of feckwitted timer- And any time it sniffs a bus, all car lights go to red... For ages!
I so, so hate Bristol traffic. And militant pedestrians. Started an entertaining rant yesterday at some prat who crossed in front of me, wagging finger at me (!?!) when my lights had changed to green- And I was calmly waiting, as opposed to bonneting... Sadly cut short by cars behind waiting... Grr! The anger, the anger...
Sorry I didn't manage to make drinkies this evening- Would have been ideal as I live about 100m from Las Iguanas! Sadly a rape and a kidnapping meant rain stopped play. Again. Now have 3 day weekend, which is blessed relief after 80hr week...
Edited by carrotchomper on Friday 18th January 01:58
carrotchomper said:
Piglet said:
carrotchomper said:
boocks. That might make my recently-purchased Harbourside apartment a little less marketable in a couple of years then....
More marketable shirley??ocks. That might make my recently-purchased Harbourside apartment a little less marketable in a couple of years then....Edited by carrotchomper on Friday 18th January 01:58
I'd go for more marketable on the basis that the congestion charge will only apply at peak hours, so for someone who works in town and is looking for a flat they will want to be inside the zone so that they can drive in outside the peak but then walk to work.
As a one bedroom it would also make a decent "town flat" for someone who wants a Monday to Friday base in town to avoid the cost of commuting as well as the charge.
(spoken by someone who in a year hopes to be living well outside the charging zone but might still be working in central bristol!)
Piglet said:
I'd go for more marketable on the basis that the congestion charge will only apply at peak hours, so for someone who works in town and is looking for a flat they will want to be inside the zone so that they can drive in outside the peak but then walk to work.
It should be exempt shirley.mechsympathy said:
Piglet said:
I'd go for more marketable on the basis that the congestion charge will only apply at peak hours, so for someone who works in town and is looking for a flat they will want to be inside the zone so that they can drive in outside the peak but then walk to work.
It should be exempt shirley.
Piglet said:
mechsympathy said:
Piglet said:
I'd go for more marketable on the basis that the congestion charge will only apply at peak hours, so for someone who works in town and is looking for a flat they will want to be inside the zone so that they can drive in outside the peak but then walk to work.
It should be exempt shirley.Gassing Station | South West | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff