Bristol Clean Air Zone
Discussion
The consultation on the options for this opened yesterday.
Option 1 focusses on banning HGVs and commercial vehicles from the city centre.
Option 2 is a ban on all diesel cars from a smaller area of the city and it.seems to apply to all private diesel vehicles including Euro 6 compliant cars.
Link:
https://news.bristol.gov.uk/news/consultation-on-t...
Option 1 focusses on banning HGVs and commercial vehicles from the city centre.
Option 2 is a ban on all diesel cars from a smaller area of the city and it.seems to apply to all private diesel vehicles including Euro 6 compliant cars.
Link:
https://news.bristol.gov.uk/news/consultation-on-t...
So from reading the link it's more about getting money to come into the center with large vehicles rather than reducing pollution!
You cannot Ban large vehicles from the center as they need to come to stock up all the shops. We all know what. Maybe a better idea would be not ask for money for large vehicles but say they need to drop off to restock shops before 7am and after say 6pm. But that's not making them money.
As for banning oil burners from the center between 7am and 3pm. Is just stupid. it won't do more than push people into other city's to do a shop or the mall.
They need to think more about the stupid layout of the roads first.
Example just going through st george to redfield in a matter of 300 meters there are about 5-6 sets of lights. 3 crossing areas 3 for junctions, that stop the flow of traffic.
For me it's too late, they have f
ked the roads up so much if they don't start trying to make the roads better and smoother they are again fked
You cannot Ban large vehicles from the center as they need to come to stock up all the shops. We all know what. Maybe a better idea would be not ask for money for large vehicles but say they need to drop off to restock shops before 7am and after say 6pm. But that's not making them money.
As for banning oil burners from the center between 7am and 3pm. Is just stupid. it won't do more than push people into other city's to do a shop or the mall.
They need to think more about the stupid layout of the roads first.
Example just going through st george to redfield in a matter of 300 meters there are about 5-6 sets of lights. 3 crossing areas 3 for junctions, that stop the flow of traffic.
For me it's too late, they have f
ked the roads up so much if they don't start trying to make the roads better and smoother they are again fked It is definitely designed to raise revenue. The banning of diesel car proposal applies to all diesel cars including the latest euro 6. It does not apply to older petrol cars.
If it was.about pollution it would ban older petrol cars and allow new diesel cars but that would require the council to spend money managing the scheme. This way it requires less management and will raise more money.
If it was.about pollution it would ban older petrol cars and allow new diesel cars but that would require the council to spend money managing the scheme. This way it requires less management and will raise more money.
Scrump said:
It is definitely designed to raise revenue. The banning of diesel car proposal applies to all diesel cars including the latest euro 6. It does not apply to older petrol cars.
If it was.about pollution it would ban older petrol cars and allow new diesel cars but that would require the council to spend money managing the scheme. This way it requires less management and will raise more money.
\If it was.about pollution it would ban older petrol cars and allow new diesel cars but that would require the council to spend money managing the scheme. This way it requires less management and will raise more money.
Why would it require more management though? Surely they'd use DVLA data, which could be used just as easily to determine whether a car is Euro 6 diesel or petrol.
Bristol city centre is fked anyway. The constant roadworks are a joke, the Metrobus was supposed to solve everything but has done nothing and as for the proposed underground ! The Galleries has more closed shops every time I go there and Cabot Circus will be heading the same way. The only places that seem to be doing well are the bars that service the students blowing their grants. Our city centre office lease will be up in 2 years and it won't be renewed. People would rather travel 100 miles further down the M4 than drive into the Bristol chaos.
ked anyway. The constant roadworks are a joke, the Metrobus was supposed to solve everything but has done nothing and as for the proposed underground ! The Galleries has more closed shops every time I go there and Cabot Circus will be heading the same way. The only places that seem to be doing well are the bars that service the students blowing their grants. Our city centre office lease will be up in 2 years and it won't be renewed. People would rather travel 100 miles further down the M4 than drive into the Bristol chaos.Yertis said:
Why would it require more management though? Surely they'd use DVLA data, which could be used just as easily to determine whether a car is Euro 6 diesel or petrol.
If you look at the London zone there are a lot of issues with whether or not cars meet the required standard and this requires paperwork to be submitted and individually assessed then a record of compliant cars to be maintained. For example my 2014 car is euro 6 compliant but the dvla data does not seem adequate so I have had to send in various pieces of paperwork which had to be assessed to confirm that my car is compliant.Far less management to just ban all diesels and allow all petrols no matter how polluting (or not) they are.
Scrump said:
If you look at the London zone there are a lot of issues with whether or not cars meet the required standard and this requires paperwork to be submitted and individually assessed then a record of compliant cars to be maintained. For example my 2014 car is euro 6 compliant but the dvla data does not seem adequate so I have had to send in various pieces of paperwork which had to be assessed to confirm that my car is compliant.
Far less management to just ban all diesels and allow all petrols no matter how polluting (or not) they are.
Far less management to just ban all diesels and allow all petrols no matter how polluting (or not) they are.
Why am I not surprised...
I'm sure this will help with the pollution in Bristol. Five days of (worse than usual) gridlock. At least the resultant drop in numbers attending the Harbour Festival should make up for it
https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/ex...
https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/ex...
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