My new PH's car!
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Well I've finally given up on just owning my boring (if really very good) A4 TDI and bought a replacement for the AMG. Its not the first thing that springs to mind when thinking of replacing a V8 beastie! It is however great fun and much faster than I expected. It also has a crazy amount of grip that puts my long gone TT to shame!
Ladies and gentlemen (cough) of Pistonheads SW, I give you my Renaultsport Clio 182! Which is, amazingly, completely stock thank god!
This is also the first of my cars that will have a name, due to being purchased with money left to me by my Grandad who passed away last year. So it'll be known as Arthur
Ladies and gentlemen (cough) of Pistonheads SW, I give you my Renaultsport Clio 182! Which is, amazingly, completely stock thank god!
This is also the first of my cars that will have a name, due to being purchased with money left to me by my Grandad who passed away last year. So it'll be known as Arthur
BuzyG said:
Nice one, and welcome to Auther. Expect he will go around corners faster than the the old AMG beastie did. 
Haha it definately goes round corners ALOT faster! The AMG didn't really like going round corners very fast (as you found out en route to Minehead that time! It was pretty entertaining around Rockingham on a drizzly, greasy track day trying to keep it neat! The 182 is the best part of 600kg's lighter than the C55 so it damn well should go round faster! I doubt I'll keep up with your Z4M in a straight line though!High flier said:
! I doubt I'll keep up with your Z4M in a straight line though!
So similar to the AMG Beastie then. 
No doubting HP is no substitute for handling, on the sort of roads we like to drive and that neither is a substitute for knowing the road. Hence my little Mazda could gap all but Paul and his nob, on a road I drive regularly.
Your going to have much fun in Arthur that's for sure.
DevonPaul said:
OK, I give up.
How does knowing the road help you drive faster, unless you want to suffer from young Farmers' Syndrome?
Paul
Because you can position the car on the way into a corner based on the direction the road is going on the other side, and allowing for posible obsticles thus making it both quicker and safer, if you know a road well. In a slower car it also means you can plan an over take several corners ahead and thus over take more easily & more safely.How does knowing the road help you drive faster, unless you want to suffer from young Farmers' Syndrome?
Paul
BuzyG said:
Because you can position the car on the way into a corner based on the direction the road is going on the other side, and allowing for posible obsticles thus making it both quicker and safer, if you know a road well. In a slower car it also means you can plan an over take several corners ahead and thus over take more easily & more safely.
But surely you just position for maximum vision and everything else follows from that?I agree that in a smaller engined car getting a run up on something slower out of a corner helps, but I also do that on roads I don't know, just in case
DevonPaul said:
But surely you just position for maximum vision and everything else follows from that?
I agree that in a smaller engined car getting a run up on something slower out of a corner helps, but I also do that on roads I don't know, just in case
In the example I gave earlier, that started this little sub thread, (Sorry OP) I was following a much faster car driven by a skilled driver, into a corner, that I knew opened on to a straight, with no junction for a reasonable distance. He had no idea what might be around the corner and therefore had to assume, as I would, that it might tighten at any point until he could see the exit. This meant I was able to carry a lot more speed in to the correct apex of the corner, whist still knowing that if I had to slow suddenly for an unexpected obstacle, the chassis would be able to cope and I would therefore be able to do so in relative safety.I agree that in a smaller engined car getting a run up on something slower out of a corner helps, but I also do that on roads I don't know, just in case
Edited by BuzyG on Wednesday 17th April 21:30
BuzyG said:
In the example I gave earlier, that started this little sub thread, (Sorry OP) I was following a much faster car driven by a skilled driver, into a corner, that I knew opened on to a straight, with no junction for a reasonable distance. He had no idea what might be around the corner and therefore had to assume, as I would, that it might tighten at any point until he could see the exit. This meant I was able to carry a lot more speed in to the correct apex of the corner, whist still knowing that if I had to slow suddenly for an unexpected obstacle, the chassis would be able to cope and I would therefore be able to do so in relative safety.
In Wales last year I was followed (in the MR2) by a Land Rover. I was driving to sightlines (just about) and he was catching up in the bends. He knew the roads, and could see over the hedges where the road went.Edited by BuzyG on Wednesday 17th April 21:30
I came around one lefthander, pulled in and stopped. He slid past me on the wrong side of the road with chirping wheels and only the ABS kept him out of the opposite hedge. I suspect that right up until that point, he thought the same as you.
DevonPaul said:
In Wales last year I was followed (in the MR2) by a Land Rover. I was driving to sightlines (just about) and he was catching up in the bends. He knew the roads, and could see over the hedges where the road went.
I came around one lefthander, pulled in and stopped. He slid past me on the wrong side of the road with chirping wheels and only the ABS kept him out of the opposite hedge. I suspect that right up until that point, he thought the same as you.
I suspected there was a cause to your line of reasoning. Life teaches us all important lessons. I expect he learnt one that day. We'll leave it there. Thanks for the exchange.I came around one lefthander, pulled in and stopped. He slid past me on the wrong side of the road with chirping wheels and only the ABS kept him out of the opposite hedge. I suspect that right up until that point, he thought the same as you.
Edited by BuzyG on Wednesday 17th April 23:04
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