K & N Oil Filters

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ttcool

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299 posts

208 months

Thursday 24th March 2011
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Does anyone use a K&N Oil filter? Any comments would be appreciated; good or bad product?

Joe

Mastodon2

13,888 posts

171 months

Thursday 24th March 2011
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ttcool said:
Does anyone use a K&N Oil filter? Any comments would be appreciated; good or bad product?

Joe
Can't speak for the oil filters, but I had a K&N air filter in my old Fiesta. Made the induction noise much rortier - or at least as rorty as you can get in a 1.3L...

K&N are generally regarded as good products, though the "Stick a K&N air filter in it" mod has gained derision from some, mainly because some kids think it makes their car vastly quicker! I would have thought the oil filters would probably be decent.

mrmr96

13,736 posts

210 months

Thursday 24th March 2011
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What car is it going in?
What type of filter? (Is is a panel filter to go in the airbox in place of the OEM paper filter, or is it a cone/induction kit?)

Generally things to be aware of are:
- Fitting a cone may suck up hot air from the engine bay if you don't sort out a 'cold air feed' to it. This will make the car slower, although it will 'sound nicer'.
- Fitting any type of oiled filter MAY cause problems with the MAF (airflow meter) depending on the type. Some MAF's use a 'hot wire' and the cooling effect of the air rushing past it is used to determine the airflow. Oiled filters (especially overoiled) can cover the wire in oil and give false readings. Other types of MAF (e.g. Karman Vortex) are not affected. The Karman Votex MAF measures the disturbence to the air caused by a fixed pole, kind of like watching a flag flap in the wind, to work out air speed. These are not affected by the oil.

HTH.

Magic919

14,126 posts

207 months

Thursday 24th March 2011
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I've used them on a few cars. Can't say it made any huge improvement, but I guess most mods will work together. I don't believe the oil/MAF story personally.

ttcool

Original Poster:

299 posts

208 months

Thursday 24th March 2011
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mrmr96 said:
What car is it going in?
What type of filter? (Is is a panel filter to go in the airbox in place of the OEM paper filter, or is it a cone/induction kit?)

Generally things to be aware of are:
- Fitting a cone may suck up hot air from the engine bay if you don't sort out a 'cold air feed' to it. This will make the car slower, although it will 'sound nicer'.
- Fitting any type of oiled filter MAY cause problems with the MAF (airflow meter) depending on the type. Some MAF's use a 'hot wire' and the cooling effect of the air rushing past it is used to determine the airflow. Oiled filters (especially overoiled) can cover the wire in oil and give false readings. Other types of MAF (e.g. Karman Vortex) are not affected. The Karman Votex MAF measures the disturbence to the air caused by a fixed pole, kind of like watching a flag flap in the wind, to work out air speed. These are not affected by the oil.

HTH.
Hi there

My car is an Audi TT 225 (remaped to 268) Quattro Coupe. It's not the K&N air filter element I'm enquiring about it's the K&N OIL filter. I agree whole heartedly with you about the K&N air filter. I don't use their panel filter or induction kit for the reasons you've quoted but would like to use their OIL filter.

Cheers

Joe

Edited by ttcool on Thursday 24th March 17:53

Defcon5

6,280 posts

197 months

Thursday 24th March 2011
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If their oil filters filter as good as their air filters I would avoid them!

ttcool

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299 posts

208 months

Thursday 24th March 2011
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Cheers! I'm going to stick to what I've always done Motul 8100 X-lite Ester based 100% Synthetic 0W/30 oil and Audi oil filter; shorter intervals.

Thanks

Joe

mrmr96

13,736 posts

210 months

Friday 25th March 2011
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AH ok. Sorry I misread. I thought you were referring to an OILED air filter, not a OIL Filter for oil!

I must admit I didn't know that K&N made oil filters!

eldavo

543 posts

176 months

Friday 25th March 2011
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Lots of 944 drivers use K&N oil filters as the filter mounts upside down and is tight to access. The K&N ones have a nut welded to the bottom so you can get a socket on to loosen/tighten. Other than that, pretty standard filter.

I would check that your filter doesn't incorporate a check return valve though, if it does then stick with OEM!!!

MoonMonkey

2,221 posts

219 months

Saturday 26th March 2011
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I use K&N oil filters on the Mustang. Main reason is they are readily available and the nut welded onto the bottom is quite handy when it comes to removal.

Gogoplata

1,271 posts

166 months

Saturday 26th March 2011
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MoonMonkey said:
I use K&N oil filters on the Mustang. Main reason is they are readily available and the nut welded onto the bottom is quite handy when it comes to removal.
Yep same here, on my last oil change I installed a K&N filter for ease of removing next time I do an oil change (I hope anyway).

Geordie boy

440 posts

220 months

Saturday 26th March 2011
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stick with an OE filter, it won't give any advantages although many will argue the name will add 10 bhp lol

WorAl

10,877 posts

194 months

Monday 4th April 2011
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Gogoplata said:
MoonMonkey said:
I use K&N oil filters on the Mustang. Main reason is they are readily available and the nut welded onto the bottom is quite handy when it comes to removal.
Yep same here, on my last oil change I installed a K&N filter for ease of removing next time I do an oil change (I hope anyway).
This also for my Subaru as the filter is beside the sump and only humans with the grip of Goliath himself are able to remove it as using any sort of tool to do the job is a waste of time.

Re: some peoples views on the air filters, what are your dislikes about them? I've had one on a previous car and never had any bother. What (panel filter) would you recommend in place of one? current car has Green Cotton one in, it came with that and it also seems ok, up to now.

ttcool

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299 posts

208 months

Tuesday 5th April 2011
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WorAl said:
This also for my Subaru as the filter is beside the sump and only humans with the grip of Goliath himself are able to remove it as using any sort of tool to do the job is a waste of time.

Re: some peoples views on the air filters, what are your dislikes about them? I've had one on a previous car and never had any bother. What (panel filter) would you recommend in place of one? current car has Green Cotton one in, it came with that and it also seems ok, up to now.
So far as the Audi TT is concerned, and probably other marques, if the K&N air filter is over oiled by mistake (easily done) it usually causes the MAF to fail. I would use the OEM air filter every time...just my opinion.

Joe

chopper602

2,239 posts

229 months

Tuesday 5th April 2011
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TBH it's probably not even made by K&N, just a badging exercise and made by some other large filter maker. I'd stick to OEM