North East Lotus Owners and Cars
Discussion
Can I take this opportunity to invite you to visit
North East Lotus Owners and Cars.
www.neloc.co.uk
A public forum that hopes to serve Lotus owners across the North East of England
North East Lotus Owners and Cars.
www.neloc.co.uk
A public forum that hopes to serve Lotus owners across the North East of England
Gad-Westy said:
I almost gave up registering after getting the code thing wrong about 5 times in a row, its a little tricky to read the characters. I'm on now though. Was going to stick a pic of my car up but it says I'm not allowed. Am I doing something wrong?
I've taken off visual reg code....Image posting should be allowed.
I've also added a cross reference to pistonheads as a curtesy.
I know they don't need it it just seemed the right thing to do....
Way too many websites offering the same thing now.
Do we really need another Lotus forum for this region? We have SELOC for a wealth of information and includes a North Eastern region. We got NYLOC for a more local, social places for run's out, monthly meets, trackdays. We got Lotus on Track for trackdays at amazing value for money. We got Lotees set up after some people where unable to attend NYLOC when it closed its open forum. And now NELOC, which forgive me if I am wrong, is the same as Lotees?
If anyone wants a fun drive out sometime, give me a call on my mobile. I am not going to be checking all these websites.
Do we really need another Lotus forum for this region? We have SELOC for a wealth of information and includes a North Eastern region. We got NYLOC for a more local, social places for run's out, monthly meets, trackdays. We got Lotus on Track for trackdays at amazing value for money. We got Lotees set up after some people where unable to attend NYLOC when it closed its open forum. And now NELOC, which forgive me if I am wrong, is the same as Lotees?
If anyone wants a fun drive out sometime, give me a call on my mobile. I am not going to be checking all these websites.
Edited by designer on Monday 11th February 18:46
Angus (and Mark I guess) - to be honest I don't think the "new NELOC" is in competition with Lotees any more than it is with SELOC or even here.
I certainly didn't see anything political about it, and the name itself suggests it might be more inclusive for chaps like myself who are that little bit further up north than teeside (irrespective of the founder's location) - in fact there's already a couple of owners joined up on there that are just down the road from me, and I hope to meet up with them soon.
Plenty room on t'interweb for everyone mate
I certainly didn't see anything political about it, and the name itself suggests it might be more inclusive for chaps like myself who are that little bit further up north than teeside (irrespective of the founder's location) - in fact there's already a couple of owners joined up on there that are just down the road from me, and I hope to meet up with them soon.
Plenty room on t'interweb for everyone mate
marshalla said:
I'm starting to think that I should get rid of my Lotus. There seems to be something about the owners that turns them into arrogant f**w*ts after a while (myself included probably). It seems that as soon as any Lotus club starts to get popular, it starts inventing rules and reasons to exclude new members (something that I've never seen with any other marque).
Lotees.org.uk was set up in reaction to one club doing exactly that, and now it seems that dpr59 feels the need, not only to "punish" the existing NELOC by registering "their" domain name but to go into competition with an existing organisation in the same geographic area.
Yes, Lotees has been low-key, mainly because of the sh*t I've had to take from people in two other clubs because I set it up (though I rather think that it's just ONE person who happens to be involved in both and doesn't like the thought that someone out there isn't prepared to toe his party line.), but also because I had hoped it could co-exist with all the other clubs in peace (if not harmony). The name was chosen to reflect the fact that it was set up to represent a little bit of the world that didn't, yet, have its own Lotus community - though the tagline has always said that it covers "anywhere there's an interested person" and I'm delighted that members further north have joined in. We haven't had regular meetings, because nobody seemed to want them - but anyone and everyone is free to organise something, providing it's legal.
dpr59 - I wish you luck, but count me out of your little empire - I'll probably shut lotees.org.uk for good in a few months anyway - I get enough cat-herding to do at work.
Designer - if you don't have my e-mail/mobile - PM me and I'll forward them. Zebs/Crowley - keep in touch - you know where I am.
Lotees.org.uk was set up in reaction to one club doing exactly that, and now it seems that dpr59 feels the need, not only to "punish" the existing NELOC by registering "their" domain name but to go into competition with an existing organisation in the same geographic area.
Yes, Lotees has been low-key, mainly because of the sh*t I've had to take from people in two other clubs because I set it up (though I rather think that it's just ONE person who happens to be involved in both and doesn't like the thought that someone out there isn't prepared to toe his party line.), but also because I had hoped it could co-exist with all the other clubs in peace (if not harmony). The name was chosen to reflect the fact that it was set up to represent a little bit of the world that didn't, yet, have its own Lotus community - though the tagline has always said that it covers "anywhere there's an interested person" and I'm delighted that members further north have joined in. We haven't had regular meetings, because nobody seemed to want them - but anyone and everyone is free to organise something, providing it's legal.
dpr59 - I wish you luck, but count me out of your little empire - I'll probably shut lotees.org.uk for good in a few months anyway - I get enough cat-herding to do at work.
Designer - if you don't have my e-mail/mobile - PM me and I'll forward them. Zebs/Crowley - keep in touch - you know where I am.
Edited by marshalla on Monday 11th February 22:01
Geordiefella said:
I certainly didn't see anything political about it, and the name itself suggests it might be more inclusive for chaps like myself who are that little bit further up north than teeside (irrespective of the founder's location) - in fact there's already a couple of owners joined up on there that are just down the road from me, and I hope to meet up with them soon.
Precisely, thank you.Political!!! Ill say so stealing the name of a car club that has existed for over 30 years what isnt political about that then?
You then post on here implying you like the adverse coments you are getting about your ill concieved theft/club. (thankfully the post has been removed)
I have no problem with more Lotus clubs being established for different tastes and types of enthusiast but, stealing a clubs identity is the lowest of the low have you no more imagination???
You turned up at 1-2 original NELOC meetings and decide you know what the club is all about and think you can do better, well why didnt you put your efforts into making the REAL ORIGINAL NELOC better, rather than this under handed, sly, and cynical aproach to setting up your own club. I suppose if things with your club dont go to plan you will try and buy SELOC.org, Club Lotus.***, NYLOC.***,LOTEES.*** etc to try and steal their identities also.
I would never want to be involved in a club who think premoting itself in such a manner is acceptable.
How much lower will you stoop?
You then post on here implying you like the adverse coments you are getting about your ill concieved theft/club. (thankfully the post has been removed)
I have no problem with more Lotus clubs being established for different tastes and types of enthusiast but, stealing a clubs identity is the lowest of the low have you no more imagination???
You turned up at 1-2 original NELOC meetings and decide you know what the club is all about and think you can do better, well why didnt you put your efforts into making the REAL ORIGINAL NELOC better, rather than this under handed, sly, and cynical aproach to setting up your own club. I suppose if things with your club dont go to plan you will try and buy SELOC.org, Club Lotus.***, NYLOC.***,LOTEES.*** etc to try and steal their identities also.
I would never want to be involved in a club who think premoting itself in such a manner is acceptable.
How much lower will you stoop?
I take it the poster of the original message has signed up to the rules for this forum? Then he should have the decency to remove it before he annoys and upsets any more members of the real NELOCs. Pretty cynical stealing the initials! The real NELOCs has been around a hell of a long time and has some great, longtime members who celebrate their cars and help each other out whenever they can. They also own a range of Lotus models which is always interesting. They don't seem to have as much time for empire building as Mr. Ryder!
Wasn't it Groucho Marx who said he wouldn't want to be a member of a club who would have him as a member, I think I might have the same attitude to a club/forum/site that starts off in this manner.
Wasn't it Groucho Marx who said he wouldn't want to be a member of a club who would have him as a member, I think I might have the same attitude to a club/forum/site that starts off in this manner.
What a complete pile of twaddle.
If you don't like it don't join the group, get on with life, try driving your car instead of talking about it.
I thought the "new NELOC" was a good idea. Who cares if there is another NELOC, which may have been going strong for 30 years but haven't been bothered to register a domain name.
I tried to joining NYLOC but they don't answer their emails
LoTees: seems to only have 4 active members.
Is this not a case of sour grapes because NELOC is generating more threads?
If you don't like it don't join the group, get on with life, try driving your car instead of talking about it.
I thought the "new NELOC" was a good idea. Who cares if there is another NELOC, which may have been going strong for 30 years but haven't been bothered to register a domain name.
I tried to joining NYLOC but they don't answer their emails
LoTees: seems to only have 4 active members.
Is this not a case of sour grapes because NELOC is generating more threads?
Put the shoe on the other foot i.e. you have been a member of a club for 20 years paying subs attending meetings and shows when possible then someone with very little knowledge of the original NELOC club and of the actual marque (i.e.couple of years ownership lotus virgin) steals your clubs identity how would you feel?
I have no problem with another club its the damage to an over 30year reputation that is the problem, as Mr. R does not have the best reputation in Lotus circles due to the amount of back stabbing he has done on Lotus forums about various clubs before attempting to set up his own. The identity theft being the latest back stab.
It really is simple change your web name and everyone will be happy keep doing what your doing and we will continue to be annoyed and rightly so.
Really inteligent comment Mr. R by the way! You cannot comment inteligently about your position because YOU ARE WRONG simple.
I suppose when all is said and done people will see your club name as the fraud it is.
I have no problem with another club its the damage to an over 30year reputation that is the problem, as Mr. R does not have the best reputation in Lotus circles due to the amount of back stabbing he has done on Lotus forums about various clubs before attempting to set up his own. The identity theft being the latest back stab.
It really is simple change your web name and everyone will be happy keep doing what your doing and we will continue to be annoyed and rightly so.
Really inteligent comment Mr. R by the way! You cannot comment inteligently about your position because YOU ARE WRONG simple.
I suppose when all is said and done people will see your club name as the fraud it is.
Edited by G_Reaper2 on Wednesday 16th April 23:43
I also would like you all to know the true domain name for the other club is available www.neloandc.co.uk at £2.24 per year anybody with an ounce of decency would stop the identity theft and get on living in harmony with the rest of the lotus community and register the proper domain name for their club and i.e
NELOC = North East Lotus Owners Club
NELO&C = North East Lotus Owners & Cars
I can guarantee no one from the real NELOC will be registering your true domain name to steal your identity
It really is that simple.
NELOC = North East Lotus Owners Club
NELO&C = North East Lotus Owners & Cars
I can guarantee no one from the real NELOC will be registering your true domain name to steal your identity
It really is that simple.
Edited by G_Reaper2 on Wednesday 16th April 23:32
Edited by G_Reaper2 on Wednesday 16th April 23:41
Oh well at least Mr Ryder has one friend, wonder if that one has had a Lotus for longer than a couple of years?
By the way HA HA HA!!!!!!
If we are the Marx brothers that would make you 'Brains' the nerd from Thunderbirds who spends all his life at his computer and never gets his hands dirty! Just what have you ever actually done to a Lotus? Other than sit at your keyboard and bad mouth others who have used the web for other Lotus users?
A man who can't stay a member of any other club so has to start his own, hence Groucho reference!
I notice none of the points made were answered, quite typically!
If anyone wants to join a club, join one with integrity, history and one that will fight to maintain its name against cynical attack.
I just wish Mr. Ryder had had the money to buy a Porche!
Watch out for NELOC's new, and proper site!
By the way HA HA HA!!!!!!
If we are the Marx brothers that would make you 'Brains' the nerd from Thunderbirds who spends all his life at his computer and never gets his hands dirty! Just what have you ever actually done to a Lotus? Other than sit at your keyboard and bad mouth others who have used the web for other Lotus users?
A man who can't stay a member of any other club so has to start his own, hence Groucho reference!
I notice none of the points made were answered, quite typically!
If anyone wants to join a club, join one with integrity, history and one that will fight to maintain its name against cynical attack.
I just wish Mr. Ryder had had the money to buy a Porche!
Watch out for NELOC's new, and proper site!
Should you open a forum for the 'North East Owners Club', I wish you well.
I however had communication from the sec. not to post info on here or other forums relating to the club, so this will be a significant switch for them.
But yes, Good luck with it.
I believe this would be your third forum launch, although 1st with the North East Club.
As I commented earlier there are.....
.org
.net
.co.uk
and the rest, some still available.
I have not been for a while but the gentlemen of North York. I suspecy if a New York Lotus sprung up they would not have recieced the same responce.
Perhaps that is an indication of other things.
Ah well.
I wish you lot would get a room, or perhaps a boxing ring. What ever your issues, right or wrong, what has it got to do with Northeast PistonHeads?
Debates like these always end up harming both parties, people don't join car clubs to bicker and battle, they join them for camaraderie and support. If a club is performing its purpose it will evolve and become a place people want to spend time. If it isn't a place of camaraderie and support then it will die.
Let the owners choose, surely that's the measure of it.
Debates like these always end up harming both parties, people don't join car clubs to bicker and battle, they join them for camaraderie and support. If a club is performing its purpose it will evolve and become a place people want to spend time. If it isn't a place of camaraderie and support then it will die.
Let the owners choose, surely that's the measure of it.
^^^^ My thoughts too Bob. Also surely this is easily solved. Both parties I'm sure have their differences, but at the same time share a similar purpose and goal. Surely both parties can get together and shake hands, perhaps if one is more traditional and one is more web-based, they could join forces to compliment each other, and ultimately become one and the same thing.
Talk to each other, kiss and make up, rather than debating til the cows come home on a public forum.
At the end of the day there aint a huge number of Loti out there, so last thing we need is a divide in loyalties.
My opinion only, for what its worth !!
Talk to each other, kiss and make up, rather than debating til the cows come home on a public forum.
At the end of the day there aint a huge number of Loti out there, so last thing we need is a divide in loyalties.
My opinion only, for what its worth !!
I agree as stated in my earlier post.
If Mr. R had talked to the commitee of the real NELOC while he was attending their meetings about setting up the web side of the club their would be no problem and he would have been an active member of an established club.
Instead he buys a domain name that does not reflect the true name of his venture and the compounds matters by stating he quite likes the adverse comments the web name theft has produced.
As I stated before www.neloandc.co.uk is available at £2.24 THAT IS YOUR CLUBS TRUE DOMAIN NAME.
Change your web name name and their will not be a problem.
It really is simple!
If Mr. R had talked to the commitee of the real NELOC while he was attending their meetings about setting up the web side of the club their would be no problem and he would have been an active member of an established club.
Instead he buys a domain name that does not reflect the true name of his venture and the compounds matters by stating he quite likes the adverse comments the web name theft has produced.
As I stated before www.neloandc.co.uk is available at £2.24 THAT IS YOUR CLUBS TRUE DOMAIN NAME.
Change your web name name and their will not be a problem.
It really is simple!
Edited by G_Reaper2 on Thursday 17th April 09:41
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