MBE ecu rev limiter change

MBE ecu rev limiter change

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Hedgetrimmer

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570 posts

263 months

Wednesday 16th January 2008
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Anyone know of any MBE ecu experts in Newcastle that can lower my rev limiter down from 9300 to 8800? I believe the Ecu is the 967 model but need to check when I get home.

Gad-Westy

14,997 posts

219 months

Wednesday 16th January 2008
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Easiset and cheapest way of doing this is to get a data cable (SBD can supply one) and download a copy of easimap. Once you've done that, changing the rev limit is a piece of pee. I can give you a hand if you want as I did it on my old car. unfortunatley I don't think I have the data cable anymore. I couldn't find anybody local who could deal with MBE gear. RP Woods in Heaton may be worth a call but they couldn't do it when I last checked hence why I suggest the above course of action. Should get all the kit for £20 or so.

Hedgetrimmer

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570 posts

263 months

Wednesday 16th January 2008
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Gad-Westy said:
Easiset and cheapest way of doing this is to get a data cable (SBD can supply one) and download a copy of easimap. Once you've done that, changing the rev limit is a piece of pee. I can give you a hand if you want as I did it on my old car. unfortunatley I don't think I have the data cable anymore. I couldn't find anybody local who could deal with MBE gear. RP Woods in Heaton may be worth a call but they couldn't do it when I last checked hence why I suggest the above course of action. Should get all the kit for £20 or so.
Thanks Graham. It already has a plumbed in connection to the ECU. I will have another look at the SBD site for the easy map software. I bought some throttle bodies from them some time ago with the same ECU but could never fathom out their software.

Gad-Westy

14,997 posts

219 months

Wednesday 16th January 2008
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Hedgetrimmer said:
Gad-Westy said:
Easiset and cheapest way of doing this is to get a data cable (SBD can supply one) and download a copy of easimap. Once you've done that, changing the rev limit is a piece of pee. I can give you a hand if you want as I did it on my old car. unfortunatley I don't think I have the data cable anymore. I couldn't find anybody local who could deal with MBE gear. RP Woods in Heaton may be worth a call but they couldn't do it when I last checked hence why I suggest the above course of action. Should get all the kit for £20 or so.
Thanks Graham. It already has a plumbed in connection to the ECU. I will have another look at the SBD site for the easy map software. I bought some throttle bodies from them some time ago with the same ECU but could never fathom out their software.
When you say you have a plumbed in connection to the ECU, do you mean that you already have a connection to a laptop and can read the ECU? If yes, then you're almost there already.

1st_petrolhead

1,431 posts

244 months

Wednesday 16th January 2008
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Usually the software is code locked but as your is not standard you will probably be ok

Tiss a very wise idea though. I have thought of reducing mine to 8400

BTW How are things? I assume you got the engine sorted?

Edited by 1st_petrolhead on Wednesday 16th January 12:38

Hedgetrimmer

Original Poster:

570 posts

263 months

Wednesday 16th January 2008
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Gad-Westy said:
Hedgetrimmer said:
Gad-Westy said:
Easiset and cheapest way of doing this is to get a data cable (SBD can supply one) and download a copy of easimap. Once you've done that, changing the rev limit is a piece of pee. I can give you a hand if you want as I did it on my old car. unfortunatley I don't think I have the data cable anymore. I couldn't find anybody local who could deal with MBE gear. RP Woods in Heaton may be worth a call but they couldn't do it when I last checked hence why I suggest the above course of action. Should get all the kit for £20 or so.
Thanks Graham. It already has a plumbed in connection to the ECU. I will have another look at the SBD site for the easy map software. I bought some throttle bodies from them some time ago with the same ECU but could never fathom out their software.
When you say you have a plumbed in connection to the ECU, do you mean that you already have a connection to a laptop and can read the ECU? If yes, then you're almost there already.
The loom has a port which connects to a laptop, although I have never used it. I guess I only need the software.

Hedgetrimmer

Original Poster:

570 posts

263 months

Wednesday 16th January 2008
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1st_petrolhead said:
Usually the software is code locked but as your is not standard you will probably be ok

Tiss a very wise idea though. I have thought of reducing mine to 8400

BTW How are things? I assume you got the engine sorted?

Edited by 1st_petrolhead on Wednesday 16th January 12:38
Just got the car back as Dave Andrews was chocker. I would be careful about lowering the limit too much as you will put a lot of stress on the crank each time you hit the limiter. Better setting it a little higher and not bouncing off it.

Looking forward to some dry weather!

Gad-Westy

14,997 posts

219 months

Wednesday 16th January 2008
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Hedgetrimmer said:
Gad-Westy said:
Hedgetrimmer said:
Gad-Westy said:
Easiset and cheapest way of doing this is to get a data cable (SBD can supply one) and download a copy of easimap. Once you've done that, changing the rev limit is a piece of pee. I can give you a hand if you want as I did it on my old car. unfortunatley I don't think I have the data cable anymore. I couldn't find anybody local who could deal with MBE gear. RP Woods in Heaton may be worth a call but they couldn't do it when I last checked hence why I suggest the above course of action. Should get all the kit for £20 or so.
Thanks Graham. It already has a plumbed in connection to the ECU. I will have another look at the SBD site for the easy map software. I bought some throttle bodies from them some time ago with the same ECU but could never fathom out their software.
When you say you have a plumbed in connection to the ECU, do you mean that you already have a connection to a laptop and can read the ECU? If yes, then you're almost there already.
The loom has a port which connects to a laptop, although I have never used it. I guess I only need the software.
I think you'll still need the data cable. On my Westfield the ECU had a port and from that was a wire to the dash and another port, effectively moving the port to a more accessible place. You'll still need a wire that'll plug into the port at one end and a laptop at the other end, usually via a USB converter. If you decide to go this way, let me know, I'll tell you exactly the parts you need. Like I say, been there done that, so you can reap the knowledge gained from my mistakes.

Edited by Gad-Westy on Wednesday 16th January 14:03

Hedgetrimmer

Original Poster:

570 posts

263 months

Wednesday 16th January 2008
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Gad-Westy said:
Hedgetrimmer said:
Gad-Westy said:
Hedgetrimmer said:
Gad-Westy said:
Easiset and cheapest way of doing this is to get a data cable (SBD can supply one) and download a copy of easimap. Once you've done that, changing the rev limit is a piece of pee. I can give you a hand if you want as I did it on my old car. unfortunatley I don't think I have the data cable anymore. I couldn't find anybody local who could deal with MBE gear. RP Woods in Heaton may be worth a call but they couldn't do it when I last checked hence why I suggest the above course of action. Should get all the kit for £20 or so.
Thanks Graham. It already has a plumbed in connection to the ECU. I will have another look at the SBD site for the easy map software. I bought some throttle bodies from them some time ago with the same ECU but could never fathom out their software.
When you say you have a plumbed in connection to the ECU, do you mean that you already have a connection to a laptop and can read the ECU? If yes, then you're almost there already.
Thanks Graham. I have had a look at the SBD website and they appear to sell the connections but not sure how much for just yet. Will give them a ring.

The loom has a port which connects to a laptop, although I have never used it. I guess I only need the software.
I think you'll still need the data cable. On my Westfield the ECU had a port and from that was a wire to the dash and another port, effectively moving the port to a more accessible place. You'll still need a wire that'll plug into the port at one end and a laptop at the other end, usually via a USB converter. If you decide to go this way, let me know, I'll tell you exactly the parts you need. Like I say, been there done that, so you can reap the knowledge gained from my mistakes.

Edited by Gad-Westy on Wednesday 16th January 14:03

dave.a

21 posts

216 months

Friday 18th January 2008
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be very carefull that you use the correct data cable as many ecu's use the same 9 pin 'com port' configuration but with different pin-outs to the ecu.

changing the rev limit is easy, download the MBE software from the net and connect up the laptop, open the software and turn on the ignition. the ecu will connect automatically to the laptop (if it doesnt you can manually connect from the file menu) and then its a case of finding the rev limit box (dont remeber off the top of my head, havn't done an mbe for about 6 months) and change the value, then send the new calibration to the ecu.

If you get stuck then I will be happy to do it for you if you bring me the car, and a data cable.


Dave
Vsport

Hedgetrimmer

Original Poster:

570 posts

263 months

Wednesday 13th February 2008
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Found out from previous owner that the cable that come out from the loom can be plugged straight into the back of a laptop. Just need to get software from SBD although there was a disk supplied with the car that I have not yet accessed.

Gad-Westy

14,997 posts

219 months

Wednesday 13th February 2008
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Hedgetrimmer said:
Found out from previous owner that the cable that come out from the loom can be plugged straight into the back of a laptop. Just need to get software from SBD although there was a disk supplied with the car that I have not yet accessed.
http://www.sbdev.co.uk/Engine_Management_Systems/ECU/Easimap_Download.htm

Should be all you need. Get in touch if you have any problems.