Dilemma - tell the wife or not?

Dilemma - tell the wife or not?

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Byff

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4,427 posts

267 months

Saturday 2nd December 2006
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About 4/5 years ago, we (sorry, I mean my wife) bought an electric scooter. She thought it would be handy for keeping in the caravan to get around large sites.

All that happened was that my son would tear around the site on it and I was forever telling him off, so we brought it home where it has since never turned a wheel due to the insurance/legal black hole that these things fall into on the public highway/pathways. Besides anything else, you would look like a right prat riding it and the coppers would stop you as soon as they saw you on it.

Now, I'm afraid to say that I use the Metro to get to work as it's free, quicker than the car when it's rush hour (only due to the stupid Gateshead traffic lights - but that's a different gripe), drops me off at works doorstep and the station is only 1.5 miles away from home.

While I had the Cerbera, I didn't want to start the engine of the car, only to travel 1.5 miles and switch it off again. This would do the engine no good what-so-ever, so I used a push-bike. However, I hated the bike, I arrived at the station all sweaty and I'm allergic to physical exercise and it always went through my mind that if it had an electric motor, it would be much better.

Now that it's winter, I'm just using the Lincoln to get to the station and the wife's got the Mini and the bike has been put to the back of the garage and forgotten about - until now....

I've just been tidying the garage and come across the scooter and the bike. In a moment of scrapheap thinking clarity, I realised that the motor from the scooter would fit onto the bikes frame, powering the pedal part and keeping the full gear train to adjust the torque required for hills and stuff. As the bike would still look pretty standard (albiet with a couple of smallish batteries strapped to the frame), any coppers passing wouldn't give it a second glance and you wouldn't feel like a prat riding it.

So, to my dilemma.

Do I tell my wife that I'm going to steal the motor and batteries from her £200 scooter and fit them to my bike.

Do I just steal them anyway and when it's finished announce my bastard creation.

Do I steal them and never tell her until she finds out herself.

Do I just forget about it and keep using the Lincoln to get to the station.

Over to you.....

Balmoral Green

41,613 posts

254 months

Saturday 2nd December 2006
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Just do it.

ray_von

2,920 posts

258 months

Saturday 2nd December 2006
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You've just got to do it, and you must post pictures of the results. It's guaranteed to be the funniest thing on here for a long time

Crowley

524 posts

217 months

Saturday 2nd December 2006
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Only if you paint it red and put a big exhaust on it....

Byff

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4,427 posts

267 months

Saturday 2nd December 2006
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Rough fag packet calculations work out around a 25-30mph top speed. My objective will be to activate the 30mph limit signs on the bottom road.

Back to the dimemma though:

If I tell her what I'm doing before hand, she's likely to tell me not to do it - as it's her scooter despite never actually riding it or using it for the last 3 years.

If I do it and then tell her, she's likely to hit the roof and I might be in the naughty room forever.

If I do it and never tell her, well, it might just work as the scooter has a large fibreglass body that will hide the missing componants, but I'm unsure as to how to explain the extra bits added to the bike. As for the scooter not working, I'll just tell her its old and broken.

I feel the need to take pictures of the idea and if/when it progresses, this could turn out to be quite dangerous.

randlemarcus

13,585 posts

237 months

Saturday 2nd December 2006
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Byff said:
Rough fag packet calculations work out around a 25-30mph top speed. My objective will be to activate the 30mph limit signs on the bottom road.

Higer gearing then? We need an NSL furious cycling charge at least..
Byff said:
If I tell her what I'm doing before hand, she's likely to tell me not to do it - as it's her scooter despite never actually riding it or using it for the last 3 years.

Its better to seek forgiveness than to ask permission. Also, see footnote.
Byff said:
If I do it and then tell her, she's likely to hit the roof and I might be in the naughty room forever.
Wont be forever. Just till she wants something different, like a shiny thing for the Christmas tree.
Byff said:
If I do it and never tell her, well, it might just work as the scooter has a large fibreglass body that will hide the missing componants, but I'm unsure as to how to explain the extra bits added to the bike. As for the scooter not working, I'll just tell her its old and broken.

And there is the magic get out clause! The scooter is broken, you were trying to fix it, when you figured out that you could save £600 on buying an electric bike, but stripping and re-armaturing the motor to restrict the speed. After all, you're using 12v batteries, instead of those high speed 6v ones, aren't you?
Byff said:
I feel the need to take pictures of the idea and if/when it progresses, this could turn out to be quite dangerous.

Bugger pictures, we need video. And isnt dangerous the point? Gragh!

graham@reading

26,553 posts

231 months

Saturday 2nd December 2006
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randlemarcus said:
Byff said:
Rough fag packet calculations work out around a 25-30mph top speed. My objective will be to activate the 30mph limit signs on the bottom road.

Higer gearing then? We need an NSL furious cycling charge at least..


You'd definitely need to change the gearing if it's an MTB - most top out at about 26-27 on the flat, you just can't peddle any faster. I've been trying to trigger a gatso on the way to work too

stardust

138 posts

254 months

Saturday 2nd December 2006
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Very dangerous ground here, are you absolutely sure your better half doesn't read PH? I was so looking forward to your company at PF & BB&T this year, at this rate you might never be let out again!!

Byff

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4,427 posts

267 months

Saturday 2nd December 2006
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100% positive she doesn't read PH, so I'm quite safe here.

I'm just wondering what rpm the peddles go at on a MB when in top gearing and wether your legs reach the physical limit before the bikes ability is topped out.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

261 months

Saturday 2nd December 2006
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Byff said:
As the bike would still look pretty standard (albiet with a couple of smallish batteries strapped to the frame), any coppers passing wouldn't give it a second glance and you wouldn't feel like a prat riding it.


It's not illegal.

You can buy bicycles with electric motors. Saw a young mother on one, compltete with kiddyseat on the back, taking her sprog to school a while ago.

Saw her a couple of times and couldn't understand how she was gliding effortlessly up the hill where fit cyclists had to work up a bit of a sweat.

Then, one day, I happened to be on foot as she sped past.....complete with a subdued buzzzzhmmmmmmmmm......then the penny dropped.

Motor appears to be built into the hub.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

261 months

Saturday 2nd December 2006
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Byff said:
I'm just wondering what rpm the peddles go at on a MB


Check out the pedals, too....

tallbloke

10,376 posts

289 months

Saturday 2nd December 2006
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There are legal issues. Bike must be under 42kg all up. Not more than 15mph. Pedals must turn when motor is going.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

261 months

Saturday 2nd December 2006
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Oh, god...should have known

555jwr

355 posts

224 months

Saturday 2nd December 2006
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On a bike with a 9 speed cassette it’s quite possible to pedal above 30mph. You run out of gears around 40mph on a downhill.
Activating speed signs on a bike is an art form. The problem is a bike doesn’t have a big enough frontal area to trigger the sign. The solution to this is to fasten a tray to the handlebars. This takes some experimenting, the tray has to be big enough to set the sign off but small enough not to affect aerodynamics and slow you down.
For GATSO’s attach said tray to the rear of the bike.
Note: for GATSO’s tray must be reflective.

Being a student was fun.

warmfuzzies

4,077 posts

259 months

Saturday 2nd December 2006
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JFDI

Byff

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4,427 posts

267 months

Saturday 2nd December 2006
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I think the speed signs are radar operated so shouldn't be a problem due to my, ahem, large dimensions.

Looks like I'm going to do it, but do I tell the wife or not?

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

261 months

Saturday 2nd December 2006
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warmfuzzies said:
JFDI


Sp...

JEDI

555jwr

355 posts

224 months

Saturday 2nd December 2006
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Tell her when you’ve got it working. I’m sure she’ll be impressed by your engineering genius. Alternatively just wait till the NIP arrives.

bomb

3,699 posts

290 months

Saturday 2nd December 2006
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Byff said:
announce my bastard creation......
sperm

Oh My god....Please make sure she listens to the 'pre-amble', before tuning into that little bit !!

This could end in tears weepingweepingweeping

andy-w

1,987 posts

232 months

Tuesday 5th December 2006
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Just do it and blame your son????