Advertising matrix sign over Newcastle central motorway

Advertising matrix sign over Newcastle central motorway

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Byff

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4,427 posts

268 months

Friday 5th December 2014
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I find this sign very distracting, can't believe anyone would think that this was a good idea.

With the amount of slip roads joining and leaving that section of the central motorway, the last thing a driver needs is something diverting their attention away from the road.

I feel a petition coming on.

Little Lofty

3,486 posts

158 months

Friday 5th December 2014
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Its crazy. I remember a few years ago Gateshead council took a guy to court who lived near the A1, he had a sign up advertising the barrels he made, the main point being that it was a distraction for motorists. Strange that other councils now see no wrong in erecting a huge flashing tv screen on one of the busiest roads in the north.

TX1

2,450 posts

190 months

Friday 5th December 2014
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Saw it yesterday and thought same thing, especially when it changes advert as you tend to watch longer than you should to see what is coming next.

SeanyD

3,390 posts

207 months

Friday 5th December 2014
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Agree 100%, absolute madness

nicolelh

69 posts

126 months

Saturday 6th December 2014
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Saw it when they were putting it up and first thing I thought of was how distracting it is. People can't drive properly through that bit of road at the best of times.

Saying that they're doing roadworks absolutely everywhere so what's one more thing to cause chaos!

Petrolhead

1,431 posts

245 months

Sunday 7th December 2014
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Glad I am not the only one, there will be a pile up there soon

e46acs

548 posts

198 months

Sunday 7th December 2014
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This is attached to the side of my office (ish) and i agree with all the above.

But, the biggest the problem it seems to be causing is people sitting at the lights busy admiring the screen/adverts and being blissfully unaware that the light have gone green, hence much frustration being caused by the traffic behind!


SeanyD

3,390 posts

207 months

Monday 8th December 2014
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If anyone has been lucky enough not to have seen it in the flesh, excuse the rubbish photo...


e46acs

548 posts

198 months

Monday 8th December 2014
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That one! I thought we were talking about the one on the Swan House roundabout (facing Manors multi-storey car park). But that one over the central motorway is worse!


Byff

Original Poster:

4,427 posts

268 months

Monday 8th December 2014
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I emailed the roadsafety team at Newcastle council.

Mr Russell Nelson (Business Management Officer) kindly responded:

Russell said:
Thank you for your recent email. Whilst I understand your concerns I would stress that the Council have undertaken the necessary considerations prior to the installation of the screen. This has included examining the impact on public safety.

I can assure you that if it was felt that the sign posed an increased danger to public safety then it would not have received planning permission. As I’m sure you understand it is not in the council’s interest to make our roads less safe.

I can assure you that to secure the relevant planning permission for the site, the issue of public safety was considered very seriously. As part of the planning consent the council received an independent public safety report on the suitability of the site and the potential impact of the sign on driver behaviour. The report felt that the screen shouldn’t have a negative impact. However, I recognise that this is a significant development and as such we will be monitoring this section of road and gathering evidence to review the impact of the sign.

Whilst it is of course the intention that drivers see the screen we do not believe that this should be to the detriment of road safety. There are a number of reasons for that. Roadside advertising and increasingly digital roadside advertising is not a new phenomenon and there are plenty of examples of it in use across the country and within our own city. For example, there is already a digital screen on the side of the Swan House roundabout and traditional billboard that can be seen from the Central Motorway.

Furthermore the terms of the planning permission means that full motion advertisements are not permitted. Sequential adverts will be displayed on the screen and these will not change more than once every 10 seconds and any changes in image will be instantaneous. The advertisements will be static and there will be no intermittent or flashing lighting, which could give the impression of a moving image. Therefore, although the sign is digital it will act in the same way as other advertising signs.

Permission for the sign required Advertisement Consent, a form of planning permission and this decision was taken in public by the council’s Planning Committee.

I hope the above provides some reassurance that we have taken the necessary measures before granting permission for the sign. I believe that as the newness of the development wears off it will become a familiar part of the road environment as developments elsewhere have done.

Regards
Russell
So there you have it folks, funny how the Swan House sign is mentioned too. I think I need to find out about these e-petition things.




Edited by Byff on Monday 8th December 23:58


Edited by Byff on Tuesday 9th December 00:01

MuZiZZle

680 posts

197 months

Tuesday 9th December 2014
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Why don't people just look at the road?

It's like people looking at accidents

Numptys

stargazer30

1,645 posts

173 months

Tuesday 9th December 2014
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MuZiZZle said:
Why don't people just look at the road?

It's like people looking at accidents

Numptys
Its not the same is it. An accident is unplanned. This is a massive sign that's designed for people in cars to look at it.


SeanyD

3,390 posts

207 months

Tuesday 9th December 2014
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Byff said:
So there you have it folks, funny how the Swan House sign is mentioned too. I think I need to find out about these e-petition things.
His response would appear to contain no specifics, no supporting evidence, no copies of any reports mentioned. Someone's family will be having a very very nice Christmas this year.

MuZiZZle

680 posts

197 months

Tuesday 9th December 2014
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stargazer30 said:
Its not the same is it. An accident is unplanned. This is a massive sign that's designed for people in cars to look at it.
Maybe it's for people on busses or car passengers and the driver should be watching the road?

I mean that's the spot where you open your windows, change down and undertake everyone through the tunnel isn't it?

Sophiefatale

22 posts

129 months

Tuesday 9th December 2014
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MuZiZZle said:
Why don't people just look at the road?
That's where I'd like to look, but as the sign is at eye level before the road dips, guess where my focus is drawn too.

It's obvious to me that this is the reason traffic light sequencing is so biased against progress - static vehicles are a potential advertising audience.

GuinnessMK

1,608 posts

229 months

Tuesday 9th December 2014
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I noticed today that they have installed a CCTV camera to keep an eye on the sign. It's on the top of the wall between the Northbound slip and the Northbound carriageway.


Baryonyx

18,064 posts

166 months

Monday 15th December 2014
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One of my mates mentioned that they'd heard the sign being discussed on the radio with complaints that it was distracting. It is, what a daft idea it was to put it there. It's a bad enough stretch of road already, without having that sign distracting motorists. It also obscures the view of the roundabout if you're coming off the sliproad Southbound next to the University building.

MuZiZZle

680 posts

197 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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If people are struggling to cope with a single sign maybe they should give up driving?

God help you in Rome, Turin, Napeles etc or Delhi / Ho Chi Minh city

bomb

3,707 posts

291 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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MuZiZZle said:
........ Rome, Turin, Naples, Delhi / Ho Chi Minh city
But I dont go home that way frown



hehe

MuZiZZle

680 posts

197 months

Thursday 18th December 2014
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bomb said:
But I dont go home that way frown



hehe
haha, a fair point, but you know what I mean.

How are people alive?!?!