Anyone else concerned about ULEZ
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I have restaurant in zone 3 which is going to fall under the proposed ulez extension which will be 24/7. We are not that close to a station so nearly all my customers drive here for evening trade. I am worried my business will shut down as clients will not pay a daily charge to get here. In addition my staff will struggle to get in or leave late at night, as they cannot afford to upgrade their cars or pay the daily charge.
I get trying to clean the air, I am an asthma sufferer but think that they should focus on getting their own house in order first i.e. black cabs, mini and uber cabs, buses, trains and improve the road infrastructure in order to keep traffic moving rather than imposing a tax on general public.
Interestingly I was speaking to a salesman at my local Porsche dealership who said should it be implementated, they will be challenging it in the courts.
I get trying to clean the air, I am an asthma sufferer but think that they should focus on getting their own house in order first i.e. black cabs, mini and uber cabs, buses, trains and improve the road infrastructure in order to keep traffic moving rather than imposing a tax on general public.
Interestingly I was speaking to a salesman at my local Porsche dealership who said should it be implementated, they will be challenging it in the courts.
Edited by Younez on Thursday 22 December 17:04
It is different from the congestion zone as it is biased against fairly new diesels and old petrols. Euro 5 diesels and euro 3 petrols and before will be affected. I live about a mile south of the a406 but have a Euro 4 petrol. I don't know if this is the case but in congestion charging areas residents get massive reduction in the price. This doesn't help those living outside the zone.
Edited by delta0 on Saturday 31st December 01:41
Mark300zx said:
I have a 2004 M3, and the residents outside of the zone don't seem to get much of a look in when it comes to discounts?
You don't get a discount if you live outside the zone because, unless you actually want to go in to the zone you can go around it (however much of a ball-ache and however much the additional pollutants you release by having to drive2x the distance). If you live in the zone you're going to have to drive through it to go anywhere, hence the discount.Mark300zx said:
I have a 2004 M3, and the residents outside of the zone don't seem to get much of a look in when it comes to discounts?
Resident discount to go after 3 year grace period. However any petrol car bar classics before 2006 will have to pay. If extension goes ahead you will also be in the zone.I live outside the zone but my sports (kayak) club is about 1/2 a mile inside. It'll cost me £20 a time to go for a paddle. Sure I can cycle in if I want to, although at this time of year a bike ride after 2 hours on the water isn't a great idea. However if I want to load boats or kit for a weekend away, that requires a car and will add £40 per car to every weekend trip. I've recommended to the club that they challenge it.
Residents discount is 90% for those living inside, but as said, will cease after 3 years.
The worst thing is if you look at their figures something like 80-90% of the emissions originate from diesels, 88% is the figure I remember. Only 12% is from private petrol cars, regardless of age. Madness.
Residents discount is 90% for those living inside, but as said, will cease after 3 years.
The worst thing is if you look at their figures something like 80-90% of the emissions originate from diesels, 88% is the figure I remember. Only 12% is from private petrol cars, regardless of age. Madness.
https://consultations.tfl.gov.uk/environment/air-q...
The consultation has recently closed and the results are broadly in favour of extending the zone out towards the north/south circular. Ideally, they want to try and extend it by 2020 but Kahn wants to try and have it in by 2019 if they go ahead, the logistics of this notwithstanding.
Pain in the arse if it goes ahead as I drive in a few times a week to East London before any public transport starts up in the morning and I like my car and am reluctant to change it.
The consultation has recently closed and the results are broadly in favour of extending the zone out towards the north/south circular. Ideally, they want to try and extend it by 2020 but Kahn wants to try and have it in by 2019 if they go ahead, the logistics of this notwithstanding.
Pain in the arse if it goes ahead as I drive in a few times a week to East London before any public transport starts up in the morning and I like my car and am reluctant to change it.
The value of petrol and diesels in the M25 to drop like stones as a result. Esp if cant go into the North / South circular once extended.
Wonder if it can be legally challenged.
It should apply solely to Bus and Taxi fleet (they are by far the absolute worst) and Pre-DPF Diesels. The situation to then be assessed again after 18 months and then decided if Petrol cars (Euro 3) of which there are many need to go?
In a few years dieselgate will be forgotten about and the war on petrol will begin:
https://www.transportenvironment.org/sites/te/file...
Happy reading.
Wonder if it can be legally challenged.
It should apply solely to Bus and Taxi fleet (they are by far the absolute worst) and Pre-DPF Diesels. The situation to then be assessed again after 18 months and then decided if Petrol cars (Euro 3) of which there are many need to go?
In a few years dieselgate will be forgotten about and the war on petrol will begin:
https://www.transportenvironment.org/sites/te/file...
Happy reading.
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