Easy commute to Canary Wharf and Safe/Family friendly?

Easy commute to Canary Wharf and Safe/Family friendly?

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5678

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6,146 posts

233 months

Wednesday 7th November 2012
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Might need to find somewhere to live in London due to work.

I want an easy/short ish trip into Docklands but I want somewhere near a park and that (most of all) is safe for my Wife and son.

I know nothing about London really, that side especially so open to info. A friend suggested Blackheath?

Pothole

34,367 posts

288 months

Wednesday 7th November 2012
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Define 'safe'.

5678

Original Poster:

6,146 posts

233 months

Wednesday 7th November 2012
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Somewhere where my wife can walk home from a tube station with my Son without worrying about what's round each corner too much. She's lived in East London before so knows how bad some of it is.


Cuchillo

685 posts

271 months

Wednesday 7th November 2012
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You could try looking in and around the Greenwich Millennium Village. 1 stop to CW on the Jubilee Line. About a 10 min walk from the Tube Station or take the bus. Its only 1 stop and there are about 6 buses that go past the place.

No idea as to how safe it is though.

ThatPhilBrettGuy

11,809 posts

246 months

Wednesday 7th November 2012
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What's your budget? That'll narrow the number of available areas.

5678

Original Poster:

6,146 posts

233 months

Wednesday 7th November 2012
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£1300-1600pcm?

Not sure if that's realistic or not though. Could push it a little if needed.

ThatPhilBrettGuy

11,809 posts

246 months

Wednesday 7th November 2012
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You can get a 2 bed flat for around £400 week in Wapping. 40 minutes walk into Docklands, a few parks and safe. Nice local shops and places to eat with a Waitrose. 10 mins walk to Tower of London and 30 mins to Liverpool St station, to give you an idea of it's placement.

Daisy Duke

1,510 posts

207 months

Wednesday 7th November 2012
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5678 said:
£1300-1600pcm?

Not sure if that's realistic or not though. Could push it a little if needed.
Depends on what you expect for that - I presume you need at least two bedrooms, but what else, i.e. do you want parking, outside space etc?

You mention Blackheath which is nice, but I think you'll struggle to get something decent there and the journey to Canary Wharf (NB I'm assuming CW when you say Docklands, but that needs clarifying) won't be straightforward as it will involve a change at either Lewisham or London Bridge.

I'd suggest looking at Limehouse as you could walk to CW from there, and it seems pretty family friendly. On the other side of the (King Edward Memorial) park from Limehouse is Wapping, which Phil suggested. As he said, it is also safe and seems to have a lot of families living there, but I think you'd need to up your budget to get two bedrooms there as £400pw is about as cheap as they get. Somewhere else to look at would be the Rotherhithe/Canada Water area as it's only one stop on the tube to CW and appears to be more affordable. I don't know the area well but it seems ok and others on PH live there, so it can't be that bad. wink


Pothole

34,367 posts

288 months

Wednesday 7th November 2012
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What about Bow? Right by Victoria Park, 15 mins walk and DLR to CW. Good market on Roman Road. Every take away you could want within delivery distance. Great for going into the West End too.

5678

Original Poster:

6,146 posts

233 months

Wednesday 7th November 2012
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Ideally, I'd like a two bed terrace or semi, I know I'm probably limiting myself wildly there though!

It would be CW that I'd be travelling to.

A little outside space would be nice. Just somewhere for my son to get some air (this is also the reason behind wanting parks near by etc.

I can live without parking. On road will be OK.

I'll have a look on rightmove at the areas mentioned so far.

(Need to get the job first too!)

bigunit00

890 posts

153 months

Wednesday 7th November 2012
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To fit those requirements you may be better going a bit further south of blackheath and look at chislehurst and surrounding areas. Most are near trains that will get you to lewisham or London bridge which then provide direct access to CW

Yanto

543 posts

214 months

Wednesday 7th November 2012
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Blackheath, Greenwich, Wapping or Limehouse. Am in Limehouse and work in Wharf.

You may struggle for house north of river (shorter commute), but nice flats around Marina in Limehouse, but will get house south. Search on SE3....we have a property rented out in Broadwalk (long road of big 3 bed semi detached houses with gardens and 20 mins to Heath - bus ride to dome tube and one stop on jubilee to wharf.

roscobbc

3,582 posts

248 months

Thursday 8th November 2012
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'Step out' a little further east - and take Jubilee Line from Canary Wharf to West Ham connection with Fenchurch Street Line and if you can a board limited stop train its 10 minutes or so to Upminster station which is just within M25 boundary - reasonably safe area, can't say what property prices are compared with Docklands though.

eastsider

1,101 posts

229 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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Pothole said:
What about Bow? Right by Victoria Park, 15 mins walk and DLR to CW. Good market on Roman Road. Every take away you could want within delivery distance. Great for going into the West End too.
I live here - north bow - and it broadly offers what you want. Walking home from a tube anywhere in London, but especially in East/South, you need to be streetwise of course. I'd say North Bow (from Mile end tube, north to victoria part southern side) is about the best bit of east London. Lots of terraces 3 bed houses, tons of new build 1-2 bed flats.

Someone above mentioned Canada Water/Rotherhithe. A very dodgy sthole in my view. South of the river only Blackheath (or Dulwich) I would say.

Daisy Duke

1,510 posts

207 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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eastsider said:
I live here - north bow - and it broadly offers what you want. Walking home from a tube anywhere in London, but especially in East/South, you need to be streetwise of course. I'd say North Bow (from Mile end tube, north to victoria part southern side) is about the best bit of east London. Lots of terraces 3 bed houses, tons of new build 1-2 bed flats.

Someone above mentioned Canada Water/Rotherhithe. A very dodgy sthole in my view. South of the river only Blackheath (or Dulwich) I would say.
I'll bow to your superior knowledge on Canada Water/Rotherhithe as I've only actually visited someone there once (unless you count the times driving through). It seemed ok, if a little soulless, but it's hard to judge unless you've actually lived there. I was basing my opinion on the fact that quite a few PHers live there, apparently with no ill effects. wink

I'm not sure I agree with you about the South of the river generally though, as there are some very nice areas there, apart from the ones you mention. However, they will be out of the OP's budget and/or make for an awkward journey to CW so it's rather a moot point.

As for Bow, I used to have a place there, and whilst pockets such as the Tredegar Square area are nice, I wouldn't say it's the best bit of East London either. Whilst it's safe enough, it' definitely more gritty than Wapping, for example. The OP would be able to afford a house there though, which is unlikely in places along the river.

OP, if you must have a house and it's the ease of journey, rather than actually being in London, that's important to you, perhaps you could look at places like Brentwood out in Essex, taking the fast mainline to Stratford, which has a simple change onto the DLR. You'd get a lot more for your money and it's family friendly with good schools, shops etc too. smile

Pothole

34,367 posts

288 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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Daisy Duke said:
eastsider said:
I live here - north bow - and it broadly offers what you want. Walking home from a tube anywhere in London, but especially in East/South, you need to be streetwise of course. I'd say North Bow (from Mile end tube, north to victoria part southern side) is about the best bit of east London. Lots of terraces 3 bed houses, tons of new build 1-2 bed flats.

Someone above mentioned Canada Water/Rotherhithe. A very dodgy sthole in my view. South of the river only Blackheath (or Dulwich) I would say.
I'll bow to your superior knowledge on Canada Water/Rotherhithe as I've only actually visited someone there once (unless you count the times driving through). It seemed ok, if a little soulless, but it's hard to judge unless you've actually lived there. I was basing my opinion on the fact that quite a few PHers live there, apparently with no ill effects. wink

I'm not sure I agree with you about the South of the river generally though, as there are some very nice areas there, apart from the ones you mention. However, they will be out of the OP's budget and/or make for an awkward journey to CW so it's rather a moot point.

As for Bow, I used to have a place there, and whilst pockets such as the Tredegar Square area are nice, I wouldn't say it's the best bit of East London either. Whilst it's safe enough, it' definitely more gritty than Wapping, for example. The OP would be able to afford a house there though, which is unlikely in places along the river.

OP, if you must have a house and it's the ease of journey, rather than actually being in London, that's important to you, perhaps you could look at places like Brentwood out in Essex, taking the fast mainline to Stratford, which has a simple change onto the DLR. You'd get a lot more for your money and it's family friendly with good schools, shops etc too. smile
Wapping's next to Shadwell.

Daisy Duke

1,510 posts

207 months

Saturday 10th November 2012
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Pothole said:
Wapping's next to Shadwell.
Your point being? I think you'll find even the nicest areas in London are near somewhere dodgy wink. And it's not like you have to go through Shadwell to get to CW or the City so in reality it's pretty much irrelevant what it's like to the inhabitants of Wapping - it's far from the worst place in the East End anyway. smile

Pothole

34,367 posts

288 months

Sunday 11th November 2012
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Daisy Duke said:
Pothole said:
Wapping's next to Shadwell.
Your point being? I think you'll find even the nicest areas in London are near somewhere dodgy wink. And it's not like you have to go through Shadwell to get to CW or the City so in reality it's pretty much irrelevant what it's like to the inhabitants of Wapping - it's far from the worst place in the East End anyway. smile
Really no need to be patronising, especially as I lived in Bow for 15 years. (in a council tower block off Roman Road FWIW). I'd choose it over anywhere near the drug-infested sthole which is Shadwell. Wapping, to my mind, looks all lovely in the daylight. I'd no sooner go there alone after dark than wander through Clapton with a John McClane sandwich board. YMMV.

Daisy Duke

1,510 posts

207 months

Sunday 11th November 2012
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Pothole said:
Really no need to be patronising, especially as I lived in Bow for 15 years. (in a council tower block off Roman Road FWIW). I'd choose it over anywhere near the drug-infested sthole which is Shadwell. Wapping, to my mind, looks all lovely in the daylight. I'd no sooner go there alone after dark than wander through Clapton with a John McClane sandwich board. YMMV.
I think you're getting a little confused, I wasn't suggesting the OP should look at Shadwell, only that what it's like (which is no different to a lot of places in a big city to be fair) shouldn't be a concern if he's interested in a place in Wapping/Limehouse. As for your opinion on what Wapping is like, I can only think that you haven't actually been in Wapping proper, as soon as you go South side of the Highway it's a different world, certainly far nicer to walk around after dark than most of Bow. I know of others who have moved from Bow because it was felt that it was going downhill due to the number of scummy people around wink.

It's all academic regardless as apparently the OP hasn't actually got the job yet, and probably couldn't afford what he seems to be looking for in Wapping anyway. I wish him luck with the interview and then suggest that he and his family spend some time in their areas of interest to find out what really best suits them, no-one else's opinion of a place really matters. smile

5678

Original Poster:

6,146 posts

233 months

Sunday 11th November 2012
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Do I need to be planning for something more like £2k PCM for what I am after? It's do-able ok, just into the realm of being a lot of money to save a commute.