Serious rookie error!
Serious rookie error!
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The Beaver King

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224 months

Monday 10th January 2011
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Well it certainly has been a cold winter and I have made a very stupid mistake.

While the AC is in the garage being preped for rallying in Italy this year, the S was moved outside to the communal carpark in November. Having blown a pipe a few weeks back, I knew that I needed to put some anti-freeze in, which I did. Except, stupid me, the engine was cold and the carpark is 100 metres away. So obviously the thermostat didn't open and circulate the water properly.

(You can see where this is going...)

Cue, 2 months of stupidly cold weather and large amounts of snow. I went to start her up yesterday and, as usual, she starts first time. Quick pre-flight check and I notice a lack of water, odd, I think. So as I topping her up, water is running out straight out from somewhere.

A quick look......I've lost an engine core plug!

So, 2.9 V6, what's involved in replacing these? Can I leave the engine in? Does anybody have any experience with this? How much of an idiot do I look?

Thanks

ketvrin

3,504 posts

238 months

Monday 10th January 2011
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I've not done it on my engine, but no doubt someone will be along in a minute...

this site gives details of the Scorpio engine for general reference but it might be worth asking the same question on their forum to see what advice you get from them

http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/CologneV6manual.htm

good luck

K wink

Edited by ketvrin on Monday 10th January 12:41

phillpot

17,510 posts

212 months

Monday 10th January 2011
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Think its all a matter of access ?

Could be a lot of difference there between a TVR and a Scorpio !

Providing there is room to tap the new one in shouldn't be a problem doing "in situ"

IMHO

Tant

509 posts

221 months

Monday 10th January 2011
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Sorry to hear that...shouldn't be too bad if you take the manifold off....you'll need decent access to clean out the hole so the new one seals ok.

Photo attached to give a better view of where they are.

Cheers

Ant

The Beaver King

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Monday 28th March 2011
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Well, got the bonnet off on Saturday and planned to get the car set up for installing the new core plug Sunday. It didn't actually work out like that and instead ended up carry on and fitting the new core plug. I can't believe quite how easy it was. It was the one under the driver side centre cylinder, it required the removal of the manifold and alternator but was pretty straight forward.

I've allocated myself 6 weeks to get her back to a seasonal state of readiness, but the more I poke about, the more I find to do. So far my list runs as below:

  • Fix core plug (done)
  • Replace rear hood window (Quoted £60)
  • Check, replace and clean front suspension (started)
  • Black exhaust wrap on mainfolds
  • New stainless steel exhaust with cheerybomb silencers
  • Have paintwork detailed
  • Alloys refurbished and balanced (£20 each)
  • Replace air intake house with steel pipe and silicon bends
  • New exhaust mounts
  • New wipers

Should keep me busy for 6 weeks biggrin

GreenV8S

31,017 posts

313 months

Monday 28th March 2011
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If one core plug was blown out, I hoped you checked the others were all firmly home.

The Beaver King

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Tuesday 29th March 2011
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GreenV8S said:
If one core plug was blown out, I hoped you checked the others were all firmly home.
I did indeed. All appear to be okay, thankfully.

TurboTony

908 posts

200 months

Tuesday 29th March 2011
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Could you tell me who has provided the quote to replace the rear window - I am looking at getting mine done.

Cheers
Tony

The Beaver King

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Monday 11th April 2011
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TurboTony said:
Could you tell me who has provided the quote to replace the rear window - I am looking at getting mine done.

Cheers
Tony
Sorry Tony, only just seen your reply.

I can't remember the name of the company, I'm due to pop in next week to drop it off though so i'll find out. I know they are based at Weights Business Park, Redditch. The guy who runs it said he'll fit me a new one for £60 as long as I remove it from the car and strip it off the hoop, otherwise it's £180 or so.

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Edited by The Beaver King on Monday 11th April 12:08

phillpot

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212 months

Monday 11th April 2011
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The Beaver King said:
they are based at Weights Business Park, Redditch. 11th April 12:08
Would be interested also (I live in Redditch) and let us know how you get on with removing it from the hoop and refitting thumbup

The Beaver King

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Monday 11th April 2011
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phillpot said:
The Beaver King said:
they are based at Weights Business Park, Redditch. 11th April 12:08
Would be interested also (I live in Redditch) and let us know how you get on with removing it from the hoop and refitting thumbup
Oh cool. Well as soon as I see him I'll get details.

Yeah I know, not going to be fun rolleyes

GreenV8S

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313 months

Tuesday 12th April 2011
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The Beaver King said:
Some additional photo's:
Looks great. (That isn't a plastic cable tie is it?)

If you haven't used this stuff before, I would recommend that you secure it with a twist of lockwire every few inches so that in a few years time when it eventually starts to unravel you don't lose the whole lot in one go.


The Beaver King

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Tuesday 12th April 2011
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GreenV8S said:
Looks great. (That isn't a plastic cable tie is it?)

If you haven't used this stuff before, I would recommend that you secure it with a twist of lockwire every few inches so that in a few years time when it eventually starts to unravel you don't lose the whole lot in one go.
Oh yeah, the cable tie biggrin

They were just a short term measure to pin the wrap in place, they are a lot more secure than the stainless steel cable tie.

Yeah, I've bought some extra's to pin every six inches or so, I really wouldn't want to have to do it again in a few years...

phillpot

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212 months

Tuesday 12th April 2011
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The Beaver King said:
Yeah, I've bought some extra's to pin every six inches or so, I really wouldn't want to have to do it again in a few years...
That wrap looks good,can I ask how many metres it took to do them (roughly) ? scratchchin

The Beaver King

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Wednesday 13th April 2011
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phillpot said:
The Beaver King said:
Yeah, I've bought some extra's to pin every six inches or so, I really wouldn't want to have to do it again in a few years...
That wrap looks good,can I ask how many metres it took to do them (roughly) ? scratchchin
Hey mate, got your PM, easier to answer here though.

I ordered 1 roll of 50mm wide by 30 metres long and I've still got some left over. I bought it off Fleabay for about £25 with 12 metal cable ties included.
You'll need to order extra cable ties, but they're cheap enough. It took about 2 hours to wrap each manifold as it's quite a long, fiddly process (I had to start from scratch once or twice). The branches are quite close together in places so I used a big screwdriver to prise them apart enough to tuck some wrap between.

As long as your bear in mind a few simple things with the wrap it's fairly easy:

1. Make it wet. I soaked mine before each wrap, it's easier to manipulate and it shrinks a little when it dries, giving a tight fit.

2. Never have any gaps. I overlapped mine by 50% for each wrap and where I couldn't wrap the individual branch, I wrapped them all together.

3. Tie wrap or lock wire it often. It stops it coming loose as your going along and helps pull it tight.

That's pretty much it, apart from giving it a coating of Silicon HT spray when your done to keep the moisture out.

HTH

Gerald-TVR

4,896 posts

226 months

Wednesday 13th April 2011
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The Beaver King said:
Who did the wheels please?

The Beaver King

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Tuesday 3rd May 2011
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Gerald-TVR said:
Who did the wheels please?
Sorry, only just seen the question.

I've a mate who works a Gaydon Motor Museum. He's been refurbing them for me in his spare time. I had seen the exchange service on eBay but decided I'd prefer to stick to the original polished and black detail on the alloys, while the eBay ones just seem to be powder coated silver.

















For those that wanted to know, the guys I am using to replace my rear window are called TR Trimming and are based at Weights Business Park, Redditch.

I am not looking forward to re-attaching the hood.

Also, I've had a quote of £250 to have my paintwork detailed. I reckon this is a bargain considering the state my paint is in when I bought it. That price is for 2 guys for 6 hours removing paint fade, holograms, chips, scratches and swirl marks.

I'll get some before and after pictures up, but the works not being done until June 3rd.

Barkychoc

7,848 posts

233 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2011
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Looking good - it might be worth making up a simple deflector plate so your air filters are sucking in cooler air thats coming over the top of the rad rather than warm air coming through the radiator.

The Beaver King

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Tuesday 3rd May 2011
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Barkychoc said:
Looking good - it might be worth making up a simple deflector plate so your air filters are sucking in cooler air thats coming over the top of the rad rather than warm air coming through the radiator.
Yeah, I've been looking at that. I'm fibre glassing the bonnet supports at the moment, but once I've got it back on I'm going to look at some kind of heat shielding and maybe cold air ducting.

The alternative is to force the radiator air downwards by cowling over the fan and forcing the air towards the bottom of the engine block. Suppose I'll have to play about a bit.

Gerald-TVR

4,896 posts

226 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2011
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The Beaver King said:
He's been refurbing them for me in his spare time.
Does he want some extra work????????????????