S1 melting fuel pump relays
S1 melting fuel pump relays
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Barry S1

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1,709 posts

218 months

Sunday 15th November 2009
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My S1 has started to melt fuel pump relays the last one has been in for
about 6 months do they all get this hot any ideas please

tozerman

1,339 posts

256 months

Sunday 15th November 2009
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Is it possible that if the fuel pump is on its way out that it will draw too much current thereby possibly melting the relay ?
Cheers.....Tony..

GreenV8S

31,018 posts

313 months

Sunday 15th November 2009
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It's not normal for them to get that hot, but there are some common faults that are worth checking for.

First check the relay socket terminals are clean and tight. They can relax with age and also corrode - and both these problems get worse when it gets hot, so you can have a vicious spiral. Also check that the solenoid supply is sound. If it's browning out or failing intermittently you might not notice it but the clamping load on the contacts will be reduced which is going to introduce contact resistance and heat.

phillpot

17,511 posts

212 months

Monday 16th November 2009
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Your S1 may be different but on my S3 there is a wiring connector between where the wiring comes out of the body and the fuel pump, right by the rear wheel. Any corrosion here ( or anywhere else ) will increase resistance causing a rise in amps which in turn overloads relays, switches etc.

clarenceboddiger

1,398 posts

244 months

Tuesday 17th November 2009
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If its getting hot, I would suspect the following
1. There should be good connections to the relay,loose connections will get hot, not only due to the way a poor connection acts on the joint itself but also because on the relay a poor connection may be constantly bringing the relay "in and out", this will cause it to overheat.
2. The fuel pump is taking more current than it should, replace it before it goes.

Le TVR

3,097 posts

280 months

Tuesday 17th November 2009
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What causes the relay to overheat is the supply to the coil being intermittent. The coil inductance has to dissipate a lot more power if the supply is not perfect DC.
If the fuel pump is the problem then it is just the relay contacts that may heat up a little.

Primary areas to check are corroded or loose connectors in the fuse box and the internal connections in the fuel pump relay.

Disassemble the fuel pump relay and you will find that the connector pins are soldered to a printed circuit board (containing electonics and a small relay).
The soldered joints between the pins and the PCB are notoriously fragile and need resoldering properly. You can also re-tin the connector pins with solder at the same time which solves most problems of loose connectors in the fuse box.