4 litre V6
4 litre V6
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phillpot

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17,511 posts

212 months

Wednesday 11th November 2009
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Seems like there was a thumping great big 4 litre version of "our little 2.9s" used in some American Fords. I imagine extra capacity gained by longer stroke rather than bigger bore ( maybe bit of both ) ? Wouldn't exactly make it a high revving screamer !

Anyone know of one of these finding its way into an S ?

S2 Giles

2,871 posts

304 months

Wednesday 11th November 2009
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There are a few Cosworth 24valve versions of the V6 kicking around in S' Series cars now, however the only person i knew who was looking at dropping the 4.0V6 in was "LeeBee" Lee Boreham, but i dont think he ever got round to it.

It was in the Ford Explorer 4x4

The Lukas

2,773 posts

223 months

Wednesday 11th November 2009
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I think the sump has to be modified, and a few other bits. Plus the hassle in finding one, and may be harder to get bits for. That's why I never followed this route, but don't let that put you off.

I think they are rated at over 200bhp in stock form (well with the S induction and exhaust system) but the torque is fantastic, thus giving a good tuning potential with a cam change and head-work.

I'm sure somebody has made an engine using a 4.0 block with 24v Cosworth heads before. eek

What you really need is a supercharger hehe

phillpot

Original Poster:

17,511 posts

212 months

Thursday 12th November 2009
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12 valves plenty enough for me, but 4000 cc scratchchin ? ?

The Lukas

2,773 posts

223 months

Thursday 12th November 2009
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To be honest, I would rather a 24v 3.0 V6 than a 12v 4.0 v6. Fuel economy is better, and plenty of room for for more power. Generally the more modern, efficient and powerful engine I deem and can be twin turboed with fantastic results! IMHO

johnnywgk

2,579 posts

211 months

Thursday 12th November 2009
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Bit of info for you, could'nt find anything TVR though.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Cologne_V6_engin...

phillpot

Original Poster:

17,511 posts

212 months

Thursday 12th November 2009
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Perhaps I'm old fashioned( no, I am old fashioned) but no substitute for cubes ! ! thumbup

QuiteQuietCerb

995 posts

252 months

Friday 13th November 2009
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somebody has done this, i remember seeing pics and description of the transplant on the net

clarenceboddiger

1,398 posts

244 months

Saturday 14th November 2009
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johnnywgk said:
Bit of info for you, could'nt find anything TVR though.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Cologne_V6_engin...
It lead me to this on Wicki
"Capacity increases
In 1991 increased capacities for the 2.8 and 2.9 engines (3.5 and 3.7 liters, respectively), were first developed and introduced by D.P. Davies and sold by his company, VeeTech Engineering, in the UK. Two companies still produce large capacity conversions on the 2.8 & 2.9: Power Engineering and Specialised Engines.."


techbotics

1,805 posts

211 months

Monday 16th November 2009
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I'm pretty sure the 4.0 V6 is also in the current Ford Mustang.. get an engine and box shipped from the states..

Also there are some pretty good looking SC kits for that engine too.. oops just spent the best part of £10K lol..

I'm going for 24V as it was v cheep.. still need the Mustang gearbox though..

Damian

kenpage

322 posts

235 months

Monday 16th November 2009
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hi i went to pick up a petrol tank from a guy in amersham he was building an engine using the 4 litre explorer block and the 24v cosworth heads i saw the flywheel he had made up and seeing his other mint and very detailed tvr,s and his fully equipped workshop i would imagine he completed it this guy is a serious engineer problem is i cant remember his name

phillpot

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17,511 posts

212 months

Monday 16th November 2009
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techbotics said:
I'm going for 24V as it was v cheep.. still need the Mustang gearbox though..

Damian
Engines can be picked up cheap enough but from what I've seen on Ebay gaskets and other bits 'n bobs can be pricey. And custom made headers ? ?

Boosted LS1

21,200 posts

289 months

Monday 16th November 2009
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The 4.0 does have a slightly wider block so you have to modify the sump and you also have to make sure you get a 4.0 with the right crankshaft as the rear needs to be compatible with your flywheel iirc. It's not a great performer but there are a number of very serious 4.0 24v conversions under way at the moment. They would be very expensive but the individuals doing them have engineering facilities and are doing it for their own pleasure. Forced induction on a 2.9 would probably be a better bet be it 12 or 24 valves.

johnnywgk

2,579 posts

211 months

Monday 16th November 2009
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What about forced induction on the 4 ltr, hehe just a thought.

kenpage

322 posts

235 months

Monday 16th November 2009
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mike as i remember it he had to have the flywheel made because the crank was an 8 bolt if that makes sense

Boosted LS1

21,200 posts

289 months

Monday 16th November 2009
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Yes, that makes sense as iirc there are 3 different explorer cranks so he may have started with the wrong engine or crank in the first place. Mind you, if you want a pukka custom flywheel the the cranks no big deal.

Roy C

4,213 posts

313 months

Tuesday 17th November 2009
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kenpage said:
hi i went to pick up a petrol tank from a guy in amersham he was building an engine using the 4 litre explorer block and the 24v cosworth heads i saw the flywheel he had made up and seeing his other mint and very detailed tvr,s and his fully equipped workshop i would imagine he completed it this guy is a serious engineer problem is i cant remember his name
Mike Pearsall?

Boosted LS1

21,200 posts

289 months

Tuesday 17th November 2009
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Lots of information here:

http://www.fordpower.org.uk/forum/index.php?showto...

It'll get good towards the end.

kenpage

322 posts

235 months

Tuesday 17th November 2009
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hi roy that rings a bell the guy is a ba pilot

Roy C

4,213 posts

313 months

Tuesday 17th November 2009
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kenpage said:
hi roy that rings a bell the guy is a ba pilot
Yes. he used to post as Mickeypee, but I can't find that ID on here anymore.