Water Pump replacement ...... "How Much !!!!"
Water Pump replacement ...... "How Much !!!!"
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markbigears

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2,485 posts

298 months

Thursday 17th May 2007
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Just had a quote for a water pump replacement on my S3C.
£570 ... please tell me this is a pi$$ take?

road2ruin

6,467 posts

245 months

Thursday 17th May 2007
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Hmmmmmm. Well after having a quick price check on the parts (approx £60 plus VAT) I would say that they most definately are having a giraffe. Lets say £35 per hour labour that would still give them 14 hours to do it in! I would say that the job should be done in less than 2.
Ask them to try again

road2ruin

6,467 posts

245 months

Thursday 17th May 2007
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S2fan

66 posts

251 months

Thursday 17th May 2007
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I replaced the pump on my S2 last summer. The pump was about £100 from TVRCarparts, and i spent about £30 on new coolant. It only took a couple of hours to do and was fairly easy to do. Not sure if the layout on the S3 if different from the S2, but i can't imagine they would be too different.
In answer to your question, I think £570 is definately taking the p*ss.

markbigears

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2,485 posts

298 months

Thursday 17th May 2007
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Something about dropping the exhaust, broken bolts, blah, blah, blah......
I feel like i'm in the sketch "I saw you coming". Thanks for the link, they quoted £80 for the pump. Nice work if you can get it.
At this rate i'm going to miss S Club heaven.....again!

Podie

46,649 posts

304 months

Thursday 17th May 2007
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Sounds like a load of BS to me. Water pump, gasket, flushed cooling system and labour cost me £250... although that was 3 years ago.

markbigears

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2,485 posts

298 months

Thursday 17th May 2007
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Podie, can I ask, where was that?

jimed

1,508 posts

235 months

Thursday 17th May 2007
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It's not a big job to replace the water pump. We've done it twice on my S3C the most recent being earlier this year and incl draining the system, etc it took under 1.5 hours - you don't need to take off the exhaust or anything. Jack up the front end of the car and let the bonnet open more widely than usual - rest its nose on a cushion or something so its not all the weight on the hinges and its much easier to get at. The pump/gasket was £34.5 plus VAT so not a bad result. The only potential problem is if one of the bolts shears as happened last time we replaced one and we then had to pull off the crank shaft pulley to get at it but you shouldn't have that problem unless you are very unlucky. Based on the above and new antifreeze its about £45 in total.
Jim


Edited by jimed on Thursday 17th May 17:25

Podie

46,649 posts

304 months

Thursday 17th May 2007
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markbigears said:
Podie, can I ask, where was that?


Local BMW specialist..!

Went to see them, and said I wanted a decent garage to work on a simple engine... and my usual mechanic was over 80 miles away... which I didn't want to do with a water leak...!!

markbigears

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2,485 posts

298 months

Thursday 17th May 2007
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this is the problem i've got, the thing is leaking like a sieve, I've got a local Honda garage that I might try. Can't think of a garage near Gravesend, I'd trust my car with.

pies

13,116 posts

285 months

Thursday 17th May 2007
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markbigears said:
Just had a quote for a water pump replacement on my S3C.
£570 ... please tell me this is a pi$$ take?


yikes









nope make that a yikes yikes

markbigears

Original Poster:

2,485 posts

298 months

Thursday 17th May 2007
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Does anyone know what the original manufactor of the water pump is? Searched on here and TVR S list, but not getting 2 part numbers the same? I'm after the genuine part not aftermarket. Thanks for all the feedback guys, appreciate it. (Colin, that was my face when he called me back regards to the quote!)

Podie

46,649 posts

304 months

Thursday 17th May 2007
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markbigears said:
this is the problem i've got, the thing is leaking like a sieve, I've got a local Honda garage that I might try. Can't think of a garage near Gravesend, I'd trust my car with.


Try a local garage... I stood and watched. Like a hawk.

yellabelly

2,258 posts

282 months

Thursday 17th May 2007
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Per the S parts list a replacement is Motaquip VWP426

The original is a Ford part from a Granada 2.9, take yours off, it is dead easy to remove and take it to your local Ford Main dealer and match it up. Otherwise find a good local Ford independant and let him replace it for you. After all it should be an engine that both of them are familiar with!

YB


PS If they charge you more than £200 for the whole lot including Anti-Freeze then they are taking you for a ride.
Do it yourself will cost very little in comparison, two hours max, do not forget the gasket and have some silicon sealant ready to act as an extra gasket seal.

Edited by yellabelly on Thursday 17th May 21:57

tvrgit

8,489 posts

281 months

Thursday 17th May 2007
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I replaced mine in September last year.

It's a bog standard Ford granada 2.9 pump. I bought a pattern one on ebay for £20. Antifreeze cost another fiver or so. Took a couple of hours work probably (well it took longer but only because I was faffing about with exhaust manifolds at the same time).

I think the ford price is about £80 for the part. add an hour and a half for fitting and I think that the previous estimates of £200 are probably about right.

£540 is a total pisstake. Not uncommon whenever garages see the TVR badge. I am constantly amazed at the prices I hear of people paying for bits.

mikee boy

967 posts

280 months

Saturday 19th May 2007
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I've done mine twice so far, once when the old one leeked (engine still fitted) and once because I had the engine out and it was easy to do while it was accessible.

First one cost £50 from a motor factors, the second was £30 off eBay (both standard sierra/granada ones).

Took less than 2 hours to fit, but beware that the bolts may be rotten at the point where the pump joins the block, so have a couple of spares ready to go (I think they're standard 10mm bolts, cut to size).

Do it yourself and bask in the glory of a job well done, and take the wife away for a cheeky weekend to a 5 star hotel with the savings. Failing that, bring it round here and I'll do it for £350 cash banditbanditbanditbanditbandit

mr clifford

816 posts

256 months

Saturday 19th May 2007
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Not sure whats happened yet but got mome from a drive tonight with water pissing out a hose. Thinks its attatched to the water pump.
So not sure if the pipes cracked or the water pump is knackered !

Uumm, question. When the water pumps finally gives way..what will you experience ?
(i know water comes out but is there anything else to look for ?)
Cheers
Adrian

tvrgit

8,489 posts

281 months

Saturday 19th May 2007
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mr clifford said:
Not sure whats happened yet but got mome from a drive tonight with water pissing out a hose. Thinks its attatched to the water pump.
So not sure if the pipes cracked or the water pump is knackered !

Uumm, question. When the water pumps finally gives way..what will you experience ?
(i know water comes out but is there anything else to look for ?)
Cheers
Adrian

The pump has a "tell-tale" - a drilled hole on the bottom of the "nose" that comes out inside the pulley. When the pump seal fails, water usually leaks out of that hole - it drips on the pulley which then sprays it everywhere. You can check by stopping the engine (very important that bit!) then feeling the underside of the nose and the inside of the bottom of the pulley, and see if there's any water / antifreeze.

Otherwise the pump can leak round the gasket (it's held on with 10 bolts) or one of the hoses.

mikee boy

967 posts

280 months

Saturday 19th May 2007
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Mine leaked through the tell-tale hole.

mr clifford

816 posts

256 months

Sunday 20th May 2007
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Many thanks for this I will have a good investigation tomorrow ! (next day off )