Rough cold running
Rough cold running
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123Larham

Original Poster:

13 posts

2 months

My car starts fine but until it’s warmed up it pulls really rough a bit like kangaroo petrol or as if you are in the wrong gear approaching a junction or roundabout any idears where to look first thanks Mick

Adrian@

4,591 posts

309 months

Check that it has the correct throttle pot, directionally. (look to see if the wiring has been modified away from the plug, as over time these things happen to correct the direction). A@

phillpot

17,498 posts

210 months

Which engine does yours have, the 2.8 or 2.9?

123Larham

Original Poster:

13 posts

2 months

Yesterday (04:05)
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Hi it’s the 2.9

Fefeu52

211 posts

93 months

Yesterday (08:11)
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Catalysed or not ? If it is catalysed, the car could run fine when the ECU is in "Open loop" mode and start to struggle in "close loop" mode. Look at the lambda sensors and the harnesses.

Also look at the coolant temp sensor. When the engine is warm, if the sensor is faulty, the engine could be far to rich and start to struggle.

123Larham

Original Poster:

13 posts

2 months

Yesterday (15:05)
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It’s the non cat model on the net some people say possible the TPS but I don’t want to change too many parts unnecessarily thanks Mick

Adrian@

4,591 posts

309 months

Yesterday (15:35)
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Don't change anything.
You will need to check the TPS for it showing 0% at idle or 100% at idle regardless, as well as checking how smooth the TPS is across the full range (from idle to WOT) before/so as to condem it as failed (and to know which directional TPS you need to buy IF you need one).
Again, do check that the wiring (colours of the wires) have not been changed (about 3" away from the plug) because it is was a 'thing' with Ford selling the TPS with a plug, with a loom, with instructions how to correct the direction. A@

You might NEED to correct lots of other things, simply because the TPS is not directionally correct because the net knowledge it limited to the net and not real world TVR issues.

Edited by Adrian@ on Monday 6th July 15:40

123Larham

Original Poster:

13 posts

2 months

Yesterday (16:44)
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We’ll have just gone for a test run with the TPS unplugged to rule that out and now waiting for recovery I’ve taken one plug out and it’s bone dry and removed a fuel pipe near the distributor and when cranking the engine no fuel comes out there’s plenty in the tank however I can’t hear the fuel pump priming it’s self but it is on a noisy road so may be still working probably going to be a long night

Adrian@

4,591 posts

309 months

Yesterday (17:08)
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So no TPS would throw the car into limp mode and cause you to break down...that sounds about right. I will leave you with it. With it plugged in it would be 1/2 right 1/2 of the time, regardless of the directionally aspect of it. A@

Edited by Adrian@ on Monday 6th July 17:12

123Larham

Original Poster:

13 posts

2 months

Yesterday (17:29)
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Well unfortunately I thought I was doing the right thing to test it as on the net it says remove it and it will run on a different map which is not ideal I’m not sure what to do now but as there’s no fuel coming through would the management system have shut this down? And would disconnecting the battery reset things ? Mick

tvrgit

8,485 posts

279 months

Yesterday (20:44)
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First thing - the engine WILL run with the TPS disconnected. It won’t run as well, but it will start and run. That’s not the reason for your breakdown.

Next - the fuel pump will run for 2 or 3 seconds after you switch ignition on, to pressurise the system, then will stop. Testing the fuel pump supply after those first few seconds will show “no supply”. Get your head down beside the near side rear wheelarch, you’ll see the pump. Get someone to switch ignition on. The pump should buzz, then stop. If it doesn’t, you need to check the pump with a direct supply wire, and/or check that the cars wiring does provide a supply.

If the pump is priming at all, then the system will pressurise, so when you remove a fuel pipe, there should be fuel spraying everywhere. If you’re getting no fuel when switching on and cranking, you should be looking at the pump and wiring first, not the TPS.

Just another thought - do the ignition and other warning lights come on before you start cranking?

123Larham

Original Poster:

13 posts

2 months

Hi both warning lights come on with the ignition but the fuel pump is not making any noise at all usually you can hear it just before you start the car so hopefully if I get home from work at a decent hour I will check to see if there is power at the pump thanks Mick

Adrian@

4,591 posts

309 months

Hi Andrew, then your page has the diagnostics stuff that is a good read...I only ever saw cars as last resorts, played with and then had to reset everything (mainly TVR additional vacuum pipes sucking themselves closed and TPS fitted incorrectly). A@

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...