Engine Fan Relay

Engine Fan Relay

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jned2

Original Poster:

198 posts

136 months

Thursday 16th June 2022
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Looking to replace The Engine Fan Relay on my 1990 S3. Can't to find a part number or where they might be available. It's a 5 prong relay. Any help gratefully appreciated.

phillpot

17,279 posts

190 months

Thursday 16th June 2022
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"Standard" relay, yours may have 5 connections but for simple on/off like a fan you only need a 4 pin. Any half decent Motor Factor should have one or Ebay smile

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/221153538914?hash=item3...

5 pin if you want to change like for like smile

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/221233396126?hash=item3...





Edited by phillpot on Thursday 16th June 11:19

TwinKam

3,168 posts

102 months

Thursday 16th June 2022
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Just be aware that not even 'standard' relays have a 'standard' terminal layout, there's a Type 'A' and a Type 'B', so ensure that you've got the correct type, or amend the wiring to each terminal to suit.

phillpot

17,279 posts

190 months

Thursday 16th June 2022
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This is the layout of what I would refer to as a "standard" relay, 5 pin would have another connection in the middle. 87a


TwinKam

3,168 posts

102 months

Thursday 16th June 2022
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Both of these (and their 4 pin equivs.) are 'standard' relays... spot the difference.
Answers on a postcard please.


jned2

Original Poster:

198 posts

136 months

Thursday 16th June 2022
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The relay I'm after is the same as in phillpot's picture but with an additional connector in the middle 87A; i.e. the same as TwinKam type B. I presume that if I follow phillpot's advice and go to any decent motor factor then I should be able to pick up what I'm after, or are they available elsewhere? Many thanks.

jned2

Original Poster:

198 posts

136 months

Friday 17th June 2022
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Quick update. In the product information for the 5 pin relay recommended by phillpot above it states that the terminal configuration is Type B, which is what I'm after. Once again many thanks.

Polly Grigora

11,209 posts

116 months

Friday 17th June 2022
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phillpot said:
"Standard" relay, yours may have 5 connections but for simple on/off like a fan you only need a 4 pin. Any half decent Motor Factor should have one or Ebay smile

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/221153538914?hash=item3...

5 pin if you want to change like for like smile

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/221233396126?hash=item3...
As above, there is something strange going on when a 5 terminal relay is used to control a single fan

There is always the possibility that there are 2 fans fitted and a 5 terminal relay is being used as part of a circuit that will switch from 1 fan running to 2 fans running if the temperature reaches above a chosen one

phillpot

17,279 posts

190 months

Saturday 18th June 2022
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There is nothing strange at all going on, Simply a case of someone slotting a 5 pin in because that's all they had. All the relay sockets in an S fuse board will take a 4 or 5 pin relay,

mentall

469 posts

137 months

Saturday 18th June 2022
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...or TVR slotting-in a 5-pin because it's all they had!

Simple: check if there's a wire connected to the 87a (normally-closed) terminal in the holder.

GreenV8S

30,481 posts

291 months

Saturday 18th June 2022
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I tend to use 5 pin type B relays evreywhere so that they are interchangeable and I only need to carry one spare. The only different ones are the ones with a flyback diode for the ECU controlled circuits.

jned2

Original Poster:

198 posts

136 months

Tuesday 21st June 2022
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Relay arrived today, fitted it and took the car for a spin to get the temperature up, the fan kicked in just below the red line, great news. Quick question - apart from old age why would a relay fail?

phillpot

17,279 posts

190 months

Tuesday 21st June 2022
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Open it up and find out!

coil windings burnt out, contacts corroded or may be just a connection failed?