Number plates in smaller size to suit ‘S’ rear
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https://www.onestopnumberplates.co.uk/
They have various non-standard shapes on offer, so they should be happy to make one to the non-standard shape that you require if you contact them.
And they will accept a photograph/scan of their required documents, so that you don't have to send any originals in the post.
They have various non-standard shapes on offer, so they should be happy to make one to the non-standard shape that you require if you contact them.
And they will accept a photograph/scan of their required documents, so that you don't have to send any originals in the post.
frontfloater said:
If you buy acrylic plates, you can cut them down to fit with a hacksaw. It's mainly the curved corners of the recess which cause the problem. I took the corners off mine at 45 degrees, then smoothed them with coarse sandpaper.
That plate would have fitted the available space quite well and not been so wide had the spacing been lawful and correct." That plate would have fitted the available space quite well and not been so wide had the spacing been lawful and correct. "
Nonsense. The plate was a standard-length item. Number plate manufacturers don't make plates in varying widths to suit shorter numbers ; you just get more white / yellow empty space.
Nonsense. The plate was a standard-length item. Number plate manufacturers don't make plates in varying widths to suit shorter numbers ; you just get more white / yellow empty space.
frontfloater said:
" That plate would have fitted the available space quite well and not been so wide had the spacing been lawful and correct. "
Nonsense. The plate was a standard-length item. Number plate manufacturers don't make plates in varying widths to suit shorter numbers ; you just get more white / yellow empty space.
89 and S should not be spaced apart, too much space between TVR and 89? Nonsense. The plate was a standard-length item. Number plate manufacturers don't make plates in varying widths to suit shorter numbers ; you just get more white / yellow empty space.
frontfloater said:
" That plate would have fitted the available space quite well and not been so wide had the spacing been lawful and correct. "
Nonsense. The plate was a standard-length item. Number plate manufacturers don't make plates in varying widths to suit shorter numbers ; you just get more white / yellow empty space.
You can obtain shorter plates for registrations with fewer characters.Nonsense. The plate was a standard-length item. Number plate manufacturers don't make plates in varying widths to suit shorter numbers ; you just get more white / yellow empty space.
frontfloater said:
" That plate would have fitted the available space quite well and not been so wide had the spacing been lawful and correct. "
Nonsense. The plate was a standard-length item. Number plate manufacturers don't make plates in varying widths to suit shorter numbers ; you just get more white / yellow empty space.
They most certainly do. I've bought shorter plates for registrations with 5 or 6 characters. as long as the border between the the outside edge and the characters conforms to the guidelines, they are legal. Here are 2 sellers:Nonsense. The plate was a standard-length item. Number plate manufacturers don't make plates in varying widths to suit shorter numbers ; you just get more white / yellow empty space.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/174923245519?hash=item2...
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/184691698280?hash=item2...
"89 and S should not be spaced apart, too much space between TVR and 89? "
At the risk of stating the bleedin' obvious, IT'S DELIBERATE !! My car is a 1989 S-type , so the space emphasises that it is an 89 S . Without the gap, it looks more like 895. And of course I know that it is technically wrong ; I have a standard set of plates in the boot for when it goes for the MOT.
As for the length of the plate, again at the risk of stating the obvious, it has one fewer characters than a standard number, and the space between the 9 and the S is slightly narrower than the 3rd numeral would have been - so overall the 6 characters take LESS room than the normal 7 characters would. So the gap did not lengthen the numberplate, even if manufacturers do vary the length of the plates.
At the risk of stating the bleedin' obvious, IT'S DELIBERATE !! My car is a 1989 S-type , so the space emphasises that it is an 89 S . Without the gap, it looks more like 895. And of course I know that it is technically wrong ; I have a standard set of plates in the boot for when it goes for the MOT.
As for the length of the plate, again at the risk of stating the obvious, it has one fewer characters than a standard number, and the space between the 9 and the S is slightly narrower than the 3rd numeral would have been - so overall the 6 characters take LESS room than the normal 7 characters would. So the gap did not lengthen the numberplate, even if manufacturers do vary the length of the plates.
Edited by frontfloater on Thursday 9th December 23:33
sixor8 said:
frontfloater said:
" That plate would have fitted the available space quite well and not been so wide had the spacing been lawful and correct. "
Nonsense. The plate was a standard-length item. Number plate manufacturers don't make plates in varying widths to suit shorter numbers ; you just get more white / yellow empty space.
They most certainly do. I've bought shorter plates for registrations with 5 or 6 characters. as long as the border between the the outside edge and the characters conforms to the guidelines, they are legal. Here are 2 sellers:Nonsense. The plate was a standard-length item. Number plate manufacturers don't make plates in varying widths to suit shorter numbers ; you just get more white / yellow empty space.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/174923245519?hash=item2...
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/184691698280?hash=item2...
Edited by RATATTAK on Thursday 9th December 23:04
Technically illegal, yes. But the aim of the law is to stop people doing alterations which make the characters harder to read or look like something else, in case of an accident or motoring offence. Witnesses (or cameras) need to be able to read the plate accurately, perhaps with only a quick glance. My plates makes it EASIER to read the number accurately ; as I said before, if the characters are spaced legally, it looks like 895.
That's what I would argue in court, or to a copper, if I was ever pulled up about it. But I've been using those plates for 17 years, and never once been stopped. Only the MoT testers object. There are much more glaringly misrepresented plates than mine, clearly aimed at fooling speed cameras ; and this is just taking the mick :
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/thousands-dr...
That's what I would argue in court, or to a copper, if I was ever pulled up about it. But I've been using those plates for 17 years, and never once been stopped. Only the MoT testers object. There are much more glaringly misrepresented plates than mine, clearly aimed at fooling speed cameras ; and this is just taking the mick :
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/thousands-dr...
Fact is, any plate that has been messed around with is no longer a number plate in the eyes of the law. Argue it however you wish but, unless it complies 100% to their specifications (on size, spacing, font, colour, finish, 'additions', etc) it simply 'doesn't exist' as a number plate and is merely a plate with numbers on it, and the offence becomes 'failure to display'. A fully compliant and legal numberplate (which will have the BSI mark imprinted) then only leaves the 'modifier' the option of trimming the outside (and adding contrasting colour screws 
) but, in addition to the minimum size for the border, there are minimum sizes for the plate... necessary when you consider eg the plate A1 currently assigned to a MINI... with only a few specific exceptions. Not every country gives its drivers the opportunity to even attach their own plates, let alone mess with them.
When you stop to think about it, it's bizarre that a device intended merely as an identifying mark has evolved into an object of such obtuse contention and vanity!
) but, in addition to the minimum size for the border, there are minimum sizes for the plate... necessary when you consider eg the plate A1 currently assigned to a MINI... with only a few specific exceptions. Not every country gives its drivers the opportunity to even attach their own plates, let alone mess with them.When you stop to think about it, it's bizarre that a device intended merely as an identifying mark has evolved into an object of such obtuse contention and vanity!
Edited by TwinKam on Friday 10th December 06:34
For completeness, this is the current LAW on number plates.
There were changes in September 2021.
You should also see the changes in the section on flags, symbols and identifiers, especially if you are taking your car abroad.
https://www.gov.uk/displaying-number-plates
There were changes in September 2021.
You should also see the changes in the section on flags, symbols and identifiers, especially if you are taking your car abroad.
https://www.gov.uk/displaying-number-plates
frontfloater said:
Technically illegal, yes. But the aim of the law is to stop people doing alterations which make the characters harder to read or look like something else, in case of an accident or motoring offence. Witnesses (or cameras) need to be able to read the plate accurately, perhaps with only a quick glance. My plates makes it EASIER to read the number accurately ; as I said before, if the characters are spaced legally, it looks like 895.
That's what I would argue in court, or to a copper, if I was ever pulled up about it. But I've been using those plates for 17 years, and never once been stopped. Only the MoT testers object. There are much more glaringly misrepresented plates than mine, clearly aimed at fooling speed cameras ; and this is just taking the mick :
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/thousands-dr...
Good luck with that then. An illegal plate and an attitude that would fail the attitude test should see an encounter with the police go very well for you. I don't recall reading any legislation that says form your own opinion on what you think may look clearer to read. That's what I would argue in court, or to a copper, if I was ever pulled up about it. But I've been using those plates for 17 years, and never once been stopped. Only the MoT testers object. There are much more glaringly misrepresented plates than mine, clearly aimed at fooling speed cameras ; and this is just taking the mick :
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/thousands-dr...
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