Oil in the air filter
Oil in the air filter
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taffstalini

Original Poster:

193 posts

290 months

Tuesday 12th July 2005
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The S (2.9 S2) has started to spit oil into the air filter from the breather pipe and has started to overheat.

Has anyone got any ideas what it might be?

mowog

258 posts

313 months

Tuesday 12th July 2005
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Have you been driving 'enthusiastically' this may have caused some oil to pass through the breather tube.

D

doddze

1,302 posts

268 months

Tuesday 12th July 2005
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I have had oil back in tot he filter before.....

after a full 360 degree spin on an airfield just after topping up with oil
doesn't explain the overheating though......

bridgdav

4,805 posts

277 months

Tuesday 12th July 2005
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What you want to do is drive around on normal roads, like the rest of US....rather than go on these track day thingys...

taffstalini

Original Poster:

193 posts

290 months

Tuesday 12th July 2005
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There was more than a little enthusiasm involved!

It happened at Oulton Park Trackday on Saturday and it was a very hot day!

In one way its good to know it has happened to someone else!

I dont think the oil was overfilled but it was at the top of the dipstick marker.


doddze

1,302 posts

268 months

Tuesday 12th July 2005
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I bopught a new filter... and have had no issues since...


cleaned the old one and have kept it for future fun days out

spivvy

1,535 posts

283 months

Tuesday 12th July 2005
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get a new filter and remove the breather tube and fit a crankcase breather direct to the filler cap

taffstalini

Original Poster:

193 posts

290 months

Tuesday 12th July 2005
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spivvy said:
get a new filter and remove the breather tube and fit a crankcase breather direct to the filler cap


Do you know why the breather pipe goes into the air filter and will a crankcase breather do the same thing?

spivvy

1,535 posts

283 months

Tuesday 12th July 2005
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taffstalini said:


spivvy said:
get a new filter and remove the breather tube and fit a crankcase breather direct to the filler cap




Do you know why the breather pipe goes into the air filter and will a crankcase breather do the same thing?



short answer no ,but i am sure other people will know pretty sure pete (greenv8s) will know

from a previous post

The breather pipes are to used to scavenge unburnt mixture that has blown by the pistons, and oil vapour, from the crank case. This is then fed to the inlet manifold or air filter so the gasses are then burnt by the engine, so reducing emissions.

more info tends to agree with above

Pressure builds up in the engine crankcase due to vapour from the hot engine oil and also from exhaust gases that escape past the piston rings (this will be more apparent in a high mileage engine where the piston rings are starting to wear). A crankcase breather system is used to release this pressure. To avoid the polluting effects of allowing the oil vapour to escape directly into the atmosphere, the breather feeds the crankcase gases into the engine where they are burnt and so converted to less harmful compounds.

>> Edited by spivvy on Tuesday 12th July 13:17

taffstalini

Original Poster:

193 posts

290 months

Tuesday 12th July 2005
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Thanks guys, ill continue to research and will let you know how things go.

GreenV8S

31,014 posts

313 months

Tuesday 12th July 2005
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It goes to the air filter so that the nasty gases and oil mist from the crank case get burnt rather than dumped straight into the atmosphere.

taffstalini

Original Poster:

193 posts

290 months

Thursday 1st September 2005
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Great news, I finally got the courage to take the S to a local specialist and there is no damage to the engine!

The cornering forces involved at Oulton Park meant that oil was entering the breather pipe just below the oil filler cap and running down into the air filter.

There are things that could be done to improve this including baffles in the sump and a dry sump configuration but this is all money that could be spent on a Cosworth implant!

Roll on the next track day.

z_chromozone

1,436 posts

278 months

Friday 2nd September 2005
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I once had a 1968 VW that used to produce nearly as much gas and oil from the breather as from the exhaust

But, as the others have said it is really only there for emissions, so you could use a catchment tank and a condensor if you wish AFAIK.

Be aware this this is not true of all cars, my old golf needed to run a closed system to ensure the correct fuel mixture.

Another common reason for breathers exiting into the induction system may be that the induction vacuum also leads to good scavenging of gasses and volitiles from the engine / oil.

Z