2.9 cutting out

2.9 cutting out

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tofts

Original Poster:

411 posts

163 months

Monday 27th April 2020
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Starts, idles, perfectly.

Driving somewhat ok, but every so often it feels like the IGN has been turned off Then immediately comes back after a second.

Doesn't feel like fuel, it's an immediate loss of power with an instant return.

Spark is fine, rigged up strobe to one plug and it's firing within the "shutdown".

Unable to replicate when stationary.

Anybody had similar issue?


v8s4me

7,264 posts

226 months

Monday 27th April 2020
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Sound like a wiring issue. Have you checked the yellow connector under the steering column? It might look OK on the outside but could still be burnt out inside. Like this...[url]

|https://thumbsnap.com/ekO1cnGQ[/url]

If the connector is OK then the next step is to check all the other wires off the back of the ignition switch. A loose wire on the back of the tacho can cause this problem. If still nothing obvious, start the engine and jiggle every wire you can find under the bonnet to see what happens. Start at the coil and work out from there.

SS2.

14,519 posts

245 months

Monday 27th April 2020
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There's a number of possible causes, but my first thought was throttle pot.

tofts

Original Poster:

411 posts

163 months

Monday 27th April 2020
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I have indeed replace the connectors under the steering column, as they were as pictured, rather nasty. I also had a couple of poor connections around ECU area and have tidied up the loom in general where many mods have been made. I have tried the old wiggle test with nothing conclusive sadly

Disconnecting the tps completely yields the same result so I'm fairly certain it's not this.

It's seems more prevelant at low rpms, pulling at junctions etc. although it will happen on normal travelling .

I have checked all the usual suspects with nothing conclusive being thrown my way.

Jaye R

790 posts

232 months

Monday 27th April 2020
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Have you checked the connectors at the Air Flow Meters are secure...I had this happen to me in the Alps...and a loose fitting connector at the AFM was the cause...

Cheers
Jaye

GreenV8S

30,484 posts

291 months

Monday 27th April 2020
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Next time it happens, watch what happens to the rev counter needle.

tvrgit

8,473 posts

259 months

Monday 27th April 2020
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GreenV8S said:
Next time it happens, watch what happens to the rev counter needle.
and the IGN warning light

Penelope Stopit

11,209 posts

116 months

Monday 27th April 2020
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And the two 21 watt test lamp bulbs that you will have connected to the ignition supply and fuel pump supply

MisterTee

320 posts

116 months

Monday 27th April 2020
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Try the coil too - mine had a similar issue when I first bought it - a new coil and perfect after that.

Penelope Stopit

11,209 posts

116 months

Tuesday 28th April 2020
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Get it sorted?

lewdon

316 posts

172 months

Tuesday 28th April 2020
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On mine similar symptoms were caused by the AFMs .
Cured completely by cleaning the tracks inside and swopping the plugs over from the Top AFM to the bottom and vice versa. I think that poor contacts on the tracks at certain positions were telling the ecu that there was no airflow so it cut the fuel. Then when the car slowed the AFM contact moved to a clean section of track signalling airflow so the ECU switched on the injectors again. Good luck.

lordofthewings

181 posts

79 months

Tuesday 28th April 2020
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Check/replace the main earth cable. I had the same puzzling symptoms, which the AA rescue chap sorted with a new earth cable.

frontfloater

367 posts

149 months

Monday 25th May 2020
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A few years ago, my S2 would intermittently cut out at about 3000 rpm, drop back to about 1500, then pick up again. If that is what yours is doing, the culprit was the throttle potentiometer as someone previously suggested. It is a known problem, mentioned at the end of chapter 3 of Steve Heath's book :

"The symptoms are that the engine would suddenly not rev above 2500 when the throttle was open. The engine then starts to cut out and after 3-5 seconds cuts back in again. The cause is a faulty throttle position sensor. This can also cause the engine to cut out at other rev ranges. The sensor gives a faulty reading and the EMU tries its best to work out what has gone wrong. In a lot of cases it will cut off the fuel, and this causes the gagging. It is like the rev limiter coming in. "

edsj

42 posts

102 months

Monday 25th May 2020
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lewdon said:
On mine similar symptoms were caused by the AFMs .
Cured completely by cleaning the tracks inside and swopping the plugs over from the Top AFM to the bottom and vice versa. I think that poor contacts on the tracks at certain positions were telling the ecu that there was no airflow so it cut the fuel. Then when the car slowed the AFM contact moved to a clean section of track signalling airflow so the ECU switched on the injectors again. Good luck.
Hi Iewdon! How do you clean the tracks?

phillpot

17,279 posts

190 months

Tuesday 26th May 2020
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edsj said:
Hi Iewdon! How do you clean the tracks?
YouTube Unit off a BMW but near enough the same wink



lewdon

316 posts

172 months

Tuesday 26th May 2020
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To the best of my recollection,( it was about 6 years ago). The covers of the AFMs are held on by silicon sealant. carefully cut round with a stanley knife. I cleaned the tracks by rubbing them with a soft cloth and methylated spirits.and used a strip of writing paper dipped in meths between the track and the slider to clean the slider
Its also worth swopping the top and bottom AFM over (or the plugs) as one is connected by three wires and the other by 4 so they are giving different signals to the ECU. Reseal after with new silicon - I used the non acetic acid- non corrosive stuff intended for electronics. Good Luck.

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edsj

42 posts

102 months

Tuesday 26th May 2020
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Thanks!