V8s - Back to the future, no definitely the past!

V8s - Back to the future, no definitely the past!

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ric p

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607 posts

275 months

Wednesday 5th June 2019
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Just collected a v8s, coming back to TVR after an Italian absence. First drive home, having come from a Maserati Spyder with power steering, light controls and a flappy paddle, just a small change!
Burnt petrol smell mingling with fibreglass resin, agricultural go-kart feel, uncatted v8, under braked, heavy steering. Fan-bloody-tastic.
It’s been 12 years plus since my 400se and I’ve gone soft. Looking forward to beating the car into submission. But why do people put wood-rimmed steering wheels on their cars? Skinny and slippery to hold, it must go.
Lots of little jobs to do but that’s part of the fun.

TVR-Stu

818 posts

205 months

Wednesday 5th June 2019
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Welcome and welcome back!

You have certainly gone for a change from the Maserati and no doubt some lower running costs. Might get myself in trouble on this forum but what made you sell it for the V8s ?

Looking at your profile you have had a great selection of cars by the way. thumbup

QBee

21,336 posts

150 months

Wednesday 5th June 2019
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Welcome back!

I agree about the steering wheel, especially if you drive it in anger (on track).
I would improve the brakes, but that may mean an increase in wheel size, but there is plenty of choice in 17 inch wheels.

ric p

Original Poster:

607 posts

275 months

Wednesday 5th June 2019
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TVR-Stu - had a great 3 years with the Maser and the previous cars. However it was ultimately the potential costs, despite all the F-cars and Maser being totally reliable.
I can get a full set of tyres for the v8s for the same cost of 1 rear for the Maser. Failure of the electric roof would also keep me awake. Or £3500 for a cam belt change on the 355 anyone?
And, to be honest, driven keenly, they were too fast for the road judging by the number of speeding tickets collected by our group returning from Angouleme, France, last year.
So hopefully I will be able to use more of the performance more of the time. And why a v8s, well I’d Done the Wedge bit and Chimaera so a Rover engined S seemed logical.

phillpot

17,252 posts

189 months

Wednesday 5th June 2019
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ric p said:
Just collected a v8s.
We need photo's wink

GreenV8S

30,421 posts

290 months

Wednesday 5th June 2019
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QBee said:
Welcome back!

I agree about the steering wheel, especially if you drive it in anger (on track).
I would improve the brakes, but that may mean an increase in wheel size, but there is plenty of choice in 17 inch wheels.
The brake balance on the original brakes on my V8S was appalling, and that seems to be typical. Upgrading the fronts to 285mm (same calipers) fixed the brake balance and improved the heat dissipation considerably too. That fits in the original wheels.

If you switch the original 15" wheels for the 16" equivalents then you can go up to 300mm if you're careful. In other words, replace the chim fronts with the corresponding chim rears. You'll need to make other changes to maintain the brake balance if you do that.

phillpot

17,252 posts

189 months

Thursday 6th June 2019
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GreenV8S said:
Upgrading the fronts to 285mm (same calipers).
How can calipers from titchy 240mm discs fit 285mm discs?


260mm discs and calipers from later Chims/griffs are a modest upgrade.

Here's some useful info........... Brake options

mk1fan

10,628 posts

231 months

Thursday 6th June 2019
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QBee said:
I would improve the brakes, but that may mean an increase in wheel size, but there is plenty of choice in 17 inch wheels.
There is a brake upgrade sticky at the top of the forum page.

Cossie 283mm discs, turned down to 278mm (gives the right disc offset so no calliper spacers and avoids minor rubbing on the calliper). Fiesta ST callipers. Appropriate pads. Thorough system flush with quality DOT4 or DOT5.1 fluid. Braided hoses to replace the flexis.

Plenty good enough for a V8S.

QBee

21,336 posts

150 months

Thursday 6th June 2019
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mk1fan said:
QBee said:
I would improve the brakes, but that may mean an increase in wheel size, but there is plenty of choice in 17 inch wheels.
There is a brake upgrade sticky at the top of the forum page.

Cossie 283mm discs, turned down to 278mm (gives the right disc offset so no calliper spacers and avoids minor rubbing on the calliper). Fiesta ST callipers. Appropriate pads. Thorough system flush with quality DOT4 or DOT5.1 fluid. Braided hoses to replace the flexis.

Plenty good enough for a V8S.
Good advice, and choose good quality pads. Mintex 1144 spring to mind.

v8s4me

7,264 posts

225 months

Thursday 6th June 2019
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If you go one step further and replace the rears with the larger ventilated Cossie discs to match the turned down 285mm at the front you get a very nice balance. I found that with the 260mm on the front and the standard rears there was a tendency for the fronts to lock up. That hasn't happened since I fitted the larger discs on the rear. Braided stainless hoses are must.

GreenV8S

30,421 posts

290 months

Thursday 6th June 2019
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phillpot said:
How can calipers from titchy 240mm discs fit 285mm discs?

260mm discs and calipers from later Chims/griffs are a modest upgrade.
There are some good options to replace the calipers and discs as a set, but keeping the original calipers spaced out on an adapter bracket is a fairly common 'big brake' upgrade.

spitfire4v8

4,017 posts

187 months

Thursday 6th June 2019
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I ran 260mm on the front of my 5 litre v8s and std on the rear, never had a balance issue on track, but as Peter ^^ will testify I used to drive it very slowly ..

Bobhon

1,059 posts

185 months

Thursday 6th June 2019
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ric p said:
Just collected a v8s, coming back to TVR after an Italian absence. First drive home, having come from a Maserati Spyder with power steering, light controls and a flappy paddle, just a small change!
Burnt petrol smell mingling with fibreglass resin, agricultural go-kart feel, uncatted v8, under braked, heavy steering. Fan-bloody-tastic.
It’s been 12 years plus since my 400se and I’ve gone soft. Looking forward to beating the car into submission. But why do people put wood-rimmed steering wheels on their cars? Skinny and slippery to hold, it must go.
Lots of little jobs to do but that’s part of the fun.
Similar-ish thing here. Brought myself another V8S 6 weeks ago, having been away from an S in a Tamora for the last 5 years.

Slower, heavier steering, notchy gearbox feeling the chassis flex over the slightest bump. Absolutely magic smile. Lovely masses of V8 bottom end torque to drag you around. Same fun factor at far slower speeds.

Looking forward to my first S Euro tour in a few weeks time.

Apparently my car was fitted with a set of the "Han" upgraded front brakes. Seems to stop very well. Pad choice is key for me. I swapped my Tamara over to Ferodo DS2500 pads and the difference was incredible.

Hope that you have many happy miles in your new car.

QBee

21,336 posts

150 months

Thursday 6th June 2019
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I use DS2500 pads in the rear brakes on my Chimaera, with grooved vented disks but the standard (for a Chimaera) 273mm size. Work well
I use Hawk Street Race pads in my front 324mm Focus RS 4 pot calipers, and it feels very balanced on both road and track. Again, vented grooved disks.

v8s4me

7,264 posts

225 months

Thursday 6th June 2019
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Bobhon said:
..... notchy gearbox....
Try THIS STUFF. It makes a HUGE difference thumbup

ajfspencer

47 posts

136 months

Friday 7th June 2019
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Welcome and good choice!
With a wood rimmed wheel, I'm guessing it's the one that Amore have just sold again? If it is - nice car - I nearly bought it in Feb but lost out by a day and bought another one.
Enjoy!

GreenV8S

30,421 posts

290 months

Friday 7th June 2019
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spitfire4v8 said:
I used to drive it very slowly ..
I remember things somewhat differently!

Bobhon

1,059 posts

185 months

Friday 7th June 2019
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v8s4me said:
Try THIS STUFF. It makes a HUGE difference thumbup
Thanks for that, very timely as I was going to look at changing the gearbox oil sometime soon.

Hefty price for gearbox oil, but if it does the job then worth it.

v8s4me

7,264 posts

225 months

Friday 7th June 2019
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I promise you, you'll notice the difference thumbup

TR4man

5,304 posts

180 months

Saturday 8th June 2019
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..and we are still waiting for pictures!