Cooling system Hoses - Help need - Engine in parts
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Has anyone got their engine in parts and wants to lend me a couple of coolant hoses so that we can get the tooling made up for the silicone ones..
I know its a bit of an ask and they aren't that dear to start with, but maybe someone has got them sitting around...
There are only 2 specific shaped hoses that will need special tooling on the V6S that I am aware of and have checked.
1 - Swirl Tank to inlet manifold. Big thick one with 35mm internal bore on the o/s of the engine.
2 - Inlet manifold to water pump. This is a 16/19mm ? internal bore pipe which runs in front of the n/s rocker cover towards the sump and then has a couple of kinks before meeting with the water pump casing.
Both of these will need to be made specially made due to their shape. Number 2 could probably be done with a straight length but the very position of this pipe right next to the exhaust manifold is a concern, as is the final join angle.
Can anyone help ??
Cheers
Mark
PS - Paceracing, black.....yes !
I know its a bit of an ask and they aren't that dear to start with, but maybe someone has got them sitting around...
There are only 2 specific shaped hoses that will need special tooling on the V6S that I am aware of and have checked.
1 - Swirl Tank to inlet manifold. Big thick one with 35mm internal bore on the o/s of the engine.
2 - Inlet manifold to water pump. This is a 16/19mm ? internal bore pipe which runs in front of the n/s rocker cover towards the sump and then has a couple of kinks before meeting with the water pump casing.
Both of these will need to be made specially made due to their shape. Number 2 could probably be done with a straight length but the very position of this pipe right next to the exhaust manifold is a concern, as is the final join angle.
Can anyone help ??
Cheers
Mark
PS - Paceracing, black.....yes !
Johno - aren't they different on the 2.8 & the later 2.9 engines? Which one do you want? I don't know the answer as I've only fiddled with my own 2.9 version.
I could possibly try to find a match for some at the local scrap yard, they have a number of old Fords with the right engines. (I've already acquired all the best parts - throttle pots, idle valves etc.) Some of the hoses will be same as on the TVR S, some will no doubt be different, but I could compare to my own to get the right ones.
>> Edited by PeterC on Thursday 8th August 16:14
I could possibly try to find a match for some at the local scrap yard, they have a number of old Fords with the right engines. (I've already acquired all the best parts - throttle pots, idle valves etc.) Some of the hoses will be same as on the TVR S, some will no doubt be different, but I could compare to my own to get the right ones.
>> Edited by PeterC on Thursday 8th August 16:14
They also varied from build to build as well...
Tim at ACT is doing a set for the Griff and Chimaera but the joke is he will probably have to do about 3000 different versions because of all the changes. If you see a man measuring things with his head under the bonnet, it is probably Tim.
Steve
Tim at ACT is doing a set for the Griff and Chimaera but the joke is he will probably have to do about 3000 different versions because of all the changes. If you see a man measuring things with his head under the bonnet, it is probably Tim.
Steve
Well it was Tim and I on Wednesday !!
From what I have seen of the S's there is not that amount of variance. I am more than happy to be proved wrong though.
We have not looked at the S1 at all.
The problem is that people keep saying there's all these differences but then cannot document or evidence them, therefor it is very hard to legislate for these variances and produce parts accordingly.
Cheers
Mark
From what I have seen of the S's there is not that amount of variance. I am more than happy to be proved wrong though.
We have not looked at the S1 at all.
The problem is that people keep saying there's all these differences but then cannot document or evidence them, therefor it is very hard to legislate for these variances and produce parts accordingly.
Cheers
Mark
Just spent the last week replacing this lot. a tipical TVR knightmare. the bottom pipes are 35m at the rad end and 35m at the bottom engine end, BUT for some idiotic reason they welded a smaller pipe into the end of the 35m pipe which then has to return to the 35 on the engine (just for a laugh). I found a pipe that is a perfect fit (35) for the bit next to the exhaust down pipe which flows away from the exhaust and back round onto the metal pipe (Quinto hazell RH1888)I cut the smaller diameter off. used a piece of flexi (converluted) bit for the bend to the radiater for the other end.
The top pipes are smaller for the swirl tank, but only a bit 32m. this meant buying a bit of pipe which was a tight fit on both ends. This is where the problem starts, as the alternater belt is right in the way. I tried to think of loads of ways of how I could do this, even considered making a plate to protect the pipes from damage. Ended up puting a cable tie through the alternater swivel bolt, and round the metal pipe to hold it away from the belt. The top pipe from the swirl pot is definatley smaller than and seems to be 32m. the bottom swirl pot pipe to the radiater is 35m. Will bring some pics on saturday of all this if i can find you. This 3m difference is vital for a good fit, as a 35m pipe on a 32m fitting is not good enough!
good luck.
gadgit.
The top pipes are smaller for the swirl tank, but only a bit 32m. this meant buying a bit of pipe which was a tight fit on both ends. This is where the problem starts, as the alternater belt is right in the way. I tried to think of loads of ways of how I could do this, even considered making a plate to protect the pipes from damage. Ended up puting a cable tie through the alternater swivel bolt, and round the metal pipe to hold it away from the belt. The top pipe from the swirl pot is definatley smaller than and seems to be 32m. the bottom swirl pot pipe to the radiater is 35m. Will bring some pics on saturday of all this if i can find you. This 3m difference is vital for a good fit, as a 35m pipe on a 32m fitting is not good enough!
good luck.
gadgit.
I have over the last couple of years had to replace every hose on mine (got fed up with them bursting at inappropriate times). I was unable to get any from TVR but found by far the best was to take the sections of hose to a good motor factor who found a length with the appropriate bends in, I then trimmed the hose to length with a sharp knife.
If I remember correctly most of mine came from the local Ford dealer as most Fords use abscenely long cooling hoses, the small hose was from the heater (Fiesta I think) and the hose for the swirlpot to pump etc came from a Sierra.
Hope this helps.
Steve.
If I remember correctly most of mine came from the local Ford dealer as most Fords use abscenely long cooling hoses, the small hose was from the heater (Fiesta I think) and the hose for the swirlpot to pump etc came from a Sierra.
Hope this helps.
Steve.
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