Full Cage

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PetrolTed

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34,443 posts

310 months

Monday 5th August 2002
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Has anyone ever fitted a full cage to an S, not just a rear roll bar?

johno

8,521 posts

289 months

Monday 5th August 2002
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Wooooh Ted !

I'm getting pretty worried about the speed of the other cars coming to Folembray already and now you're getting a full roll cage !!

Easy tiger, you'll be in on a mission aswell.

From what I know though no-one has fitted a full cage to a S series car. It would probably have to be a design and build from the Rollcentre or such like.

You could try and use your car as a prototype as we are starting to push the Tasmin guys to let us bring S's into the series aswell and then there would be a demand for full cages for S's.

SParing all that some old scaffold poles and a bit of welding and you'd be laughing.

PetrolTed

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Just musing about what to do with my car in the long term. Like the idea of getting it a bit more sorted for track days and occasional road use rather than the other way around.

johno

8,521 posts

289 months

Monday 5th August 2002
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Guessed as much.

We were musing the other day about a TVR race formula that allowed a variety of models onto the circuit at once rather than just the Tasmins.

There are several S's coming up very cheaply now and it would mena easy access to a good handling car etc etc.

It would be fun to turn a S into a track day car, but more fun to race it !

So if you are considering this, then are you considering a purchase of another car ??

shpub

8,507 posts

279 months

Monday 5th August 2002
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I have a full roll cage in the 520 and if you want to see what serious surgery was required and I mean serious surgery, the car will be on the Tower View stand. Just don't mention roll cage to Dave or Mark as it will bring them out in a cold sweat. It is/was a serious amount of work and involved a lot of dashboard cutting and body work removal.

Steve

shpub

8,507 posts

279 months

Monday 5th August 2002
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Ted's already got the Bently Turbo to poodle in...

johno

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Monday 5th August 2002
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Must say that reassures me Steve, before Hethel !

PetrolTed

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Monday 5th August 2002
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That's right. I don't like to use the Bentley much as it hasn't got any stickers on it

shpub

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Monday 5th August 2002
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Forgot to say... at Duxford on Saturday.

Steve

monaco

219 posts

289 months

Monday 5th August 2002
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Ted

I posted the exact same question just a few weeks ago, I was advised to contact rollcentre to see if they could help. they told me to talk to Tower View Services as they are the distributors for these cages.
I have not yet had a chance to ask them, but sounds promising.

If you have any luck I would be interested to hear, and yes an new S challenge series would be a great idea and a good reason not to sell the S afterall.

PetrolTed

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Monday 5th August 2002
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Got another avenue I'll pursue too. I'll let you know.

davidy

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291 months

Monday 5th August 2002
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monaco and PetrolTed

don't forget to ask for a discount if you both purchase at the same time, if a guy is bending up one cage its not a lot of additional effort to bend up two.

Thats my good idea for the day, I'll go back to sleep now!!

davidy

shpub

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279 months

Monday 5th August 2002
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The cost of bending metal work is the easy bit. It is the "how do I work out how to fit this to the car without telling the owner that the whole interior needs to come out and that his foot needs to be broken in two places so he can get access to the accelerator" not to mention the odd TVR habit of changing things so that the roll bar doesn't fit the next car.

If the dashborad level bracing bar is not used, the front hoop not extended into the footwell to provide additional leg protection and the side impact bar not used it is easier but you loose a lot of the protection which is why it's there in the first place.

Been there... done that... Still sorting the interior out!

Steve

tvrmark

369 posts

277 months

Monday 5th August 2002
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I've got a roll bar on order from Tower ViewRollcenter. There is a bit of a back log at the moment, something to do with Martin racing around the Belgium country side.

Well done Martin for finishing the Spa 24h race

Mark

JSG

2,238 posts

290 months

Sunday 11th August 2002
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Has anyone ever fitted a full cage to an S, not just a rear roll bar?


Very impressed with the rear roll bar, what did the Cosworth S racer have - was that a full cage?

PetrolTed

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Very impressed with the rear roll bar

Do you have one John?

JSG

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Monday 12th August 2002
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Very impressed with the rear roll bar

Do you have one John?


Hi Ted,

Yes, I had one fitted a couple of weeks ago after getting nagged about the kids' safety when I took them out. Very neat installation. I always thought they looked ok and my first impressions are that the chassis seems stiffer (as expected) and road noise isn't any worse (as some had warned). I had the seat bracing bars fitted at the same time to keep my bum inside the car during bumpy high speed drives.

I'm itching to do a track day now.

Cheers,
John.

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shpub

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Monday 12th August 2002
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Very impressed with the rear roll bar, what did the Cosworth S racer have - was that a full cage?




Yes but the only thing they used from an S was the body style. The S chassis was replaced with a competition space frame one so bears little or no relationship with the production cars from that point. Easy enough to fit if the car is stripped out. Can be a lot of work if you want to retain the interior.

Steve

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Paceracing

729 posts

273 months

Monday 12th August 2002
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Steve,
I didn't know that they used a spaceframe in the Cosworth 'S', but it sounds like it would have been the sensible thing to do. I once heard a report that the car was a real hairy beast to drive because it used a slightly modified original chassis which had a bit of trouble dealing with the 500 odd horsepower, obviously incorrect then, although I suspect that even a spaceframe would have had a tough time with that sort of power.

Jas.

shpub

8,507 posts

279 months

Monday 12th August 2002
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It did and it had a Hewland gearbox IIRC. The Turbo S was basically a race car with pseudo S shaped bodywork. It obviously shouldn't be seen as an endorsement that the S chassis can take 500+ bhp that the engine was producing.

Steve