Help required - Bonnet catches
Help required - Bonnet catches
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King Fisher

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739 posts

208 months

Tuesday 21st June 2011
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I really need some help here chaps; Nick's car is running fine, apart from the bonnet is coming undone everytime he goes over a bump/railway crossing etc. He's tried adjusting it, but it keeps slipping down at the hinges, and also the catches aren't up to much. This was a problem before he rebuilt the car, and now he's got it back and wants to use it, it's driving him mad (to the point he's put it up for sale, see here: http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2948305.htm).

Can anyone suggest a solution? Bonnet pins?

Any advice is appreciated, I don't want him to sell this brilliant little car!!!

Gerald-TVR

4,896 posts

226 months

Tuesday 21st June 2011
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King Fisher said:
but it keeps slipping down at the hinges
Never heard of that any chance of a photo - I will be making up a new batch of SS hinges in the next week or so they might help

King Fisher

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739 posts

208 months

Tuesday 21st June 2011
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Gerald-TVR said:
Never heard of that any chance of a photo - I will be making up a new batch of SS hinges in the next week or so they might help
I'll try and get him to take some photos. His hinges are new....

techbotics

1,805 posts

211 months

Tuesday 21st June 2011
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New catches?

Fixed mine that way... Don't do pins or leather straps.

Cheers D S3

King Fisher

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739 posts

208 months

Tuesday 21st June 2011
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techbotics said:
New catches?

Fixed mine that way... Don't do pins or leather straps.

Cheers D S3
This is one idea, however it's £20 each for the spring/pin object, and £25 each for the catches. £90 in all!

techbotics

1,805 posts

211 months

Tuesday 21st June 2011
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King Fisher said:
This is one idea, however it's £20 each for the spring/pin object, and £25 each for the catches. £90 in all!
Yes looks like youre getting them cheep then lols does it need the pins?

Cheers D S3

GreenV8S

31,017 posts

313 months

Tuesday 21st June 2011
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If the hinge keeps slipping, that's a problem he definitely needs to fix or the bonnet will be damaged. Once that is sorted out, he needs to adjust the bonnet to the right position relative to the body, then adjust the bonnet pins to the right position relative to the latches and finally set the length of the pins. I would guess the position or length of the pins is what's causing it to pop open, but no point tackling that until the hinges are sorted out and adjusted.

King Fisher

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739 posts

208 months

Tuesday 21st June 2011
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GreenV8S said:
If the hinge keeps slipping, that's a problem he definitely needs to fix or the bonnet will be damaged. Once that is sorted out, he needs to adjust the bonnet to the right position relative to the body, then adjust the bonnet pins to the right position relative to the latches and finally set the length of the pins. I would guess the position or length of the pins is what's causing it to pop open, but no point tackling that until the hinges are sorted out and adjusted.
The bonnet is already stone chipped at the bottom. It's got brand new TVR Car Parts hinges. The bit where it's slipping is where the bolt goes into the chassis; the nuts either side seem to be coming undone and allowing it some movement.

grahamw48

9,944 posts

267 months

Tuesday 21st June 2011
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Maybe they're supposed to have some sort of lock washers ?

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phillpot

17,510 posts

212 months

Tuesday 21st June 2011
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for six 'n half grand I'd expect a bonnet that stays shut whistle


Can you put a picture up of the problem,maybe something not quite put together right? Hard to imagine how some whacking great big M12 bolts keep coming loose ?

Edited by phillpot on Wednesday 22 June 06:48

Gerald-TVR

4,896 posts

226 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2011
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King Fisher said:
the nuts either side seem to be coming undone and allowing it some movement.
?Loctight?

King Fisher

Original Poster:

739 posts

208 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2011
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phillpot said:
for six 'n half grand I'd expect a bonnet that stays shut whistle


Can you put a picture up of the problem,maybe something not quite put together right? Hard to imagine how some whacking great big M12 bolts keep coming loose ?

Edited by phillpot on Wednesday 22 June 06:48
As would I, but it is one of the best examples of the car you'll find. Have you read the upgrades it's had?

As for loctite, tried it, pitiful stuff! It did naff all apparently. Maybe he should use some of his mate's truck loctite? ;-)

GreenV8S

31,017 posts

313 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2011
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King Fisher said:
The bonnet is already stone chipped at the bottom. It's got brand new TVR Car Parts hinges. The bit where it's slipping is where the bolt goes into the chassis; the nuts either side seem to be coming undone and allowing it some movement.
Sounds to me like either somebody's had a blond moment putting it together, or is failing to do it up tight enough. There's a couple of chuffing great M12 bolts there and they don't need to be particularly tight to stop them slipping. Have you seen the problem for yourself? Do you understand which bits need to be tight to stop it slipping?

grahamw48

9,944 posts

267 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2011
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I'll get Nick to bring it round to mine, and have a look.

It'll be nowt that can't easily be fixed.

Alan Whitaker

2,054 posts

211 months

Thursday 23rd June 2011
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Hi

I think as others have said, 12 mm bolts don't just come un dun, you could check that the threads go all the way down the bold and there is not a shoulder stopping the bold clamping the parts together.

Alan


Gerald-TVR

4,896 posts

226 months

Thursday 23rd June 2011
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Does Nick's car have the threaded blocks for the 2 12MM setscrews to bolt into as below? (Long hinge bolt removed in the picture)



If its just a long bolt as a hinge retained by two nuts then thats your problem

King Fisher

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739 posts

208 months

Friday 24th June 2011
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Gerald-TVR said:
Does Nick's car have the threaded blocks for the 2 12MM setscrews to bolt into as below? (Long hinge bolt removed in the picture)



If its just a long bolt as a hinge retained by two nuts then thats your problem
I've just asked Nick, and he says no, his didn't have those originally, but ONE of those blocks did appear in his box of bits, and he wondered what it was for....unless they're used elsewhere on the car too? He could find no logical use for it at the time!

Mr Plow

1,193 posts

257 months

Friday 24th June 2011
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King Fisher said:
I've just asked Nick, and he says no, his didn't have those originally, but ONE of those blocks did appear in his box of bits, and he wondered what it was for....unless they're used elsewhere on the car too? He could find no logical use for it at the time!
yikes What else is left in his box of bits?!?!



phillpot

17,510 posts

212 months

Friday 24th June 2011
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Does the "box of bits" come with the car biggrin

Gerald-TVR

4,896 posts

226 months

Friday 24th June 2011
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King Fisher said:
I've just asked Nick, and he says no, his didn't have those originally, but ONE of those blocks did appear in his box of bits, and he wondered what it was for....unless they're used elsewhere on the car too? He could find no logical use for it at the time!
I might have an old rusty one would you like me to look? I could let you have a pair of stainless ones but would need some dosh. You also need a couple of M12 setscrews 25mm long and nuts washer etc as can be seen in photo of the hinge sets I supply