you worry about photos being used without permission......

[cirks]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8094420.st...

I find the shopkeeper's excuse a tiny bit weak, don't you?!

[mikee boy]

I don't think I'd have been overly offended if somebody thought my family was perfect enough to use in an advert. It's not like they're using it to advertise unsavoury products or services, in fact quite the opposite. I can imagine there would have been a degree of initial shock, but as the photo was already on the internet I think they created any invasion of privacy.

Lesson No. 1: If you want to keep your life private, don't post it on the World Wide Web

[Scooby_snax]

So are you saying theft is acceptable?
Just because an image is on the Web doesnt mean anyone can use it. If I leave a bike on the front lawn it doesnt mean anyone is free to use it.

(Ok in the real world, taking images without the owners permission is a continual problem) If I find images of mine used without permission or no link back to my site I do something about it including in one case having a site closed down when they refused to play ball)

[Altrezia]

Scooby_snax said:

So are you saying theft is acceptable?
Just because an image is on the Web doesnt mean anyone can use it. If I leave a bike on the front lawn it doesnt mean anyone is free to make a duplicate of it and leave me the original bike.

EFA.

[Pvapour]

OOOooo yeh, copy n paste real life objects, mmmmm.......... wouldn't do broken bike thats for sure

[J111]

We're to believe it was randomly pinched from a blog post ? I'm calling shenanigans.

The image in the window appears to be of reasonable resolution and several feet across (judging by the reflection of the cars), my money's on Ms. Kelly having uploaded the original image to a stock site.

Also, unless you're a head of state, just how narcissistic would you have to be to put your own image on a Christmas card ?

[Stickers]

J111 said:

Also, unless you're a head of state, just how narcissistic would you have to be to put your own image on a Christmas card ?

It's a FIN family photograph, sent to family members FFS!...........besides which, without permission (ie; model realease) it's theft!

[Fordo]

Stickers said:

J111 said:

Also, unless you're a head of state, just how narcissistic would you have to be to put your own image on a Christmas card ?

It's a FIN family photograph, sent to family members FFS!...........besides which, without permission (ie; model realease) it's theft!

technically not - theft removes the original. This is copyright infringement

[Stickers]

Fordo said:

Stickers said:

J111 said:

Also, unless you're a head of state, just how narcissistic would you have to be to put your own image on a Christmas card ?

It's a FIN family photograph, sent to family members FFS!...........besides which, without permission (ie; model realease) it's theft!

technically not - theft removes the original. This is copyright infringement

Yup.....copyright theft!

[J111]

Stickers said:

Fordo said:

Stickers said:

J111 said:

Also, unless you're a head of state, just how narcissistic would you have to be to put your own image on a Christmas card ?

It's a FIN family photograph, sent to family members FFS!...........besides which, without permission (ie; model realease) it's theft!

technically not - theft removes the original. This is copyright infringement

Yup.....copyright theft!

No such thing.

[Scooby_snax]

J111 said:

Stickers said:

Fordo said:

Stickers said:

J111 said:

Also, unless you're a head of state, just how narcissistic would you have to be to put your own image on a Christmas card ?

It's a FIN family photograph, sent to family members FFS!...........besides which, without permission (ie; model realease) it's theft!

technically not - theft removes the original. This is copyright infringement

Yup.....copyright theft!

No such thing.

Care to elaborate?

[Famous Graham]

Stickers said:

without permission (ie; model realease) it's theft!

Models/subjects don't have any say in what the photographer does with the image. You don't need model releases in the UK. Stock sites tend to ask for them as they sell internationally, and you DO need them in the US.

[J111]

Scooby_snax said:

J111 said:

Stickers said:

Fordo said:

Stickers said:

J111 said:

Also, unless you're a head of state, just how narcissistic would you have to be to put your own image on a Christmas card ?

It's a FIN family photograph, sent to family members FFS!...........besides which, without permission (ie; model realease) it's theft!

technically not - theft removes the original. This is copyright infringement

Yup.....copyright theft!

No such thing.

Care to elaborate?

There is no offence of copyright theft:

http://www.ipo.gov.uk/crime/crime-resources/crime-...

[Stickers]

Famous Graham said:

Stickers said:

without permission (ie; model realease) it's theft!

Models/subjects don't have any say in what the photographer does with the image. You don't need model releases in the UK. Stock sites tend to ask for them as they sell internationally, and you DO need them in the US.

Christ.....it's like pulling out teeth - this article/thread relates to the USA

[Stickers]

J111 said:

There is no offence of copyright theft:

http://www.ipo.gov.uk/crime/crime-resources/crime-...

What the hell is the link supposed to tell me?

[J111]

Stickers said:

J111 said:

There is no offence of copyright theft:

http://www.ipo.gov.uk/crime/crime-resources/crime-...

What the hell is the link supposed to tell me?

It's a guide to the intellectual property offences. That's why it says "IP crime> Awareness and resources> Guide to offences" at the top. I'm at a loss as to what you found confusing.

[J111]

Stickers said:

Famous Graham said:

Stickers said:

without permission (ie; model realease) it's theft!

Models/subjects don't have any say in what the photographer does with the image. You don't need model releases in the UK. Stock sites tend to ask for them as they sell internationally, and you DO need them in the US.

Christ.....it's like pulling out teeth - this article/thread relates to the USA

No, it doesn't, but I suspect the number of people on PH who are well versed in Czech copyright law is fairly small.

[Stickers]

J111 said:

Stickers said:

J111 said:

There is no offence of copyright theft:

http://www.ipo.gov.uk/crime/crime-resources/crime-...

What the hell is the link supposed to tell me?

It's a guide to the intellectual property offences. That's why it says "IP crime> Awareness and resources> Guide to offences" at the top. I'm at a loss as to what you found confusing.

Equally, I'm at a loss as to why you think UK law applies to the USA?

[J111]

Stickers said:

J111 said:

Stickers said:

J111 said:

There is no offence of copyright theft:

http://www.ipo.gov.uk/crime/crime-resources/crime-...

What the hell is the link supposed to tell me?

It's a guide to the intellectual property offences. That's why it says "IP crime> Awareness and resources> Guide to offences" at the top. I'm at a loss as to what you found confusing.

Equally, I'm at a loss as to why you think UK law applies to the USA?

See above.

[Stickers]

J111 said:

Stickers said:

Famous Graham said:

Stickers said:

without permission (ie; model realease) it's theft!

Models/subjects don't have any say in what the photographer does with the image. You don't need model releases in the UK. Stock sites tend to ask for them as they sell internationally, and you DO need them in the US.

Christ.....it's like pulling out teeth - this article/thread relates to the USA

No, it doesn't, but I suspect the number of people on PH who are well versed in Czech copyright law is fairly small.

"It's a life-size picture in a grocery store window in Prague - my Christmas card photo!" said a startled Ms Smith, 36, who lives in a suburb of St Louis.

The Smiths and the photographer who took the picture, Gina Kelly, say that no permission was sought or given for the photograph to be used.