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I've just bought a 300D which has the same sensor and software as the 10D without all the fancy settings and less exposure modes. It also does not have a metal chassis. The quality is excellent and I can highly recommend it. There is no delay between pressing the shutter and the image being captured which I have always found to be a problem with digital cameras.
One of our photo club members has a 300D and is very pleased with it. The one thinking about the 10D has decided to hold off until it is replaced by a newer version next year.
I have used some of the software that comes with various Canon digital cameras and have been very unimpressed with it. I found it difficult to understand exactly what it is supposed to be doing as it was poorly documented. This is despite working with computers and owning Canon cameras for the last 20 years !
I know 99% of people have Photoshop, but if you don't then look very carefully at the camera to computer to output software workflow as that can influence your decision just as much as the quality of the hardware.
I have used some of the software that comes with various Canon digital cameras and have been very unimpressed with it. I found it difficult to understand exactly what it is supposed to be doing as it was poorly documented. This is despite working with computers and owning Canon cameras for the last 20 years !
I know 99% of people have Photoshop, but if you don't then look very carefully at the camera to computer to output software workflow as that can influence your decision just as much as the quality of the hardware.
te51cle said:
One of our photo club members has a 300D and is very pleased with it. The one thinking about the 10D has decided to hold off until it is replaced by a newer version next year.
Ooh - that sounds interesting. Do you have any more info about what might replace it? If there is something new in the pipeline, then I may hold on for a bit!
As for the software, I currently use Photoshop 7, but would probably upgrade to the latest version which supports Canon RAW format images, although I'll also check out the Capture One DSLR software from Phase One which Barcadi recommends.
I have a 10D & EOS 3 - with various lenses. The build quality is fine (not as good as EOS 1nRS) and seems same as eos3 - and the weight is about the same.
I have just sent off for some of my shots to be printed (by bonusprint - mmmm, we'll see!) but hope it is excellent... will let u know.
The big issue is the 1.6 conversion factor which makes all your lenses 'zoom' a bit...
Have you considered the D60 - same number of pixels
Ash
I have just sent off for some of my shots to be printed (by bonusprint - mmmm, we'll see!) but hope it is excellent... will let u know.
The big issue is the 1.6 conversion factor which makes all your lenses 'zoom' a bit...
Have you considered the D60 - same number of pixels
Ash
Hi do you guys know of DPReview? They review digital cameras in great depth as soon as they get their hands on them and a feature a lot of digital news. They've tested the EOS10D, 60D, 300D. Even a Nikon D-SLR owner like me would be tempted by the EOSIDS if Canon knocked a mahoosive chunk off the price.
Here's the link to the Canon reviews page:
www.dpreview.com/reviews/specs/Canon/
Here's the link to the Canon reviews page:
www.dpreview.com/reviews/specs/Canon/
I bought a 10D a few months ago, and it is fantastic. There are a lot of purists around that scoff at the concept of a Digital SLR, but I just love having the ability to have full control of the camera get some creative results without the risk of blowing £10 on a load of duff shots while you're experimenting. A lot of the pictures I take are of our triplet 2 year olds and ultimately the key to good results is... take lots of shots, because you simply can't dictate a scene. Lets face it, thats what professionals do but they have their companies stumping up for film and development costs. I think there is a recent addition to the Canon SLR range which has had fantastic reviews and costs about £300 less than the 10D
Have you considered a 1D? It's purpose designed for sports, and is *much* better for motorsport than a D60/10D. It has Canon's best AF, and shoots at 8 fps!
The price has come down a lot as a replacement should be announced in Feb/March. If you can wait till then, there should be some bargains on eBay, one of which may be mine.
Oh, and don't be put off by the 4mp issue, it's images are sharper than a 10D, so you get about 90-95% of the detail of a 6mp DSLR. Only real downsides are cost and weight.
The price has come down a lot as a replacement should be announced in Feb/March. If you can wait till then, there should be some bargains on eBay, one of which may be mine.
Oh, and don't be put off by the 4mp issue, it's images are sharper than a 10D, so you get about 90-95% of the detail of a 6mp DSLR. Only real downsides are cost and weight.
Not sure really - I'm not in a position to buy one right now anyway, so will see what Canon anounce next Spring. Do you have any more info on what they're likely to bring out?
I've had a quick look at a review of the D1, and it does look very impressive, so I would certainly consider this, especially if prices drop!
I've had a quick look at a review of the D1, and it does look very impressive, so I would certainly consider this, especially if prices drop!
ehasler said:
Not sure really - I'm not in a position to buy one right now anyway, so will see what Canon anounce next Spring. Do you have any more info on what they're likely to bring out?
I've had a quick look at a review of the D1, and it does look very impressive, so I would certainly consider this, especially if prices drop!
There's been no firm info on the next version, only speculation. The 1D is an amazing camera, if you're serious about doing motorsport, you'd be much better off with it than a D60/10D. I speak from (expensive) experience. The AF and general operation speed of the D60 were just too slow and it got frustrating. The 10D is much better, but still no 1D.
The next problem is lenses, then the fun really begins........
If you want to see some of my pictures, both D60 and 1D, check out my gallery
I'm pretty sorted with lenses at the moment (the 300 2.8 is awesome!), although would like to get hold of the f2.8 24-70 and 70-200 to replace my 28-135, however motorsport is just one area that I like to photograph, so I'd be looking for something that would be good at landscape type stuff as well, and ideally, with 6+ MP.
To be honest, I'll wait a while to see what Canon bring out, and will reconsider then!
Alternatively, if I win the lottery, I'd just go for the 1Ds instead!!
To be honest, I'll wait a while to see what Canon bring out, and will reconsider then!
Alternatively, if I win the lottery, I'd just go for the 1Ds instead!!
ehasler said:
I'm pretty sorted with lenses at the moment (the 300 2.8 is awesome!), although would like to get hold of the f2.8 24-70 and 70-200 to replace my 28-135, however motorsport is just one area that I like to photograph, so I'd be looking for something that would be good at landscape type stuff as well, and ideally, with 6+ MP.
To be honest, I'll wait a while to see what Canon bring out, and will reconsider then!
Alternatively, if I win the lottery, I'd just go for the 1Ds instead!!
1Ds is too slow for sport, so you'd have to get both
Mmmm, 1Ds
srider said:
1Ds is too slow for sport, so you'd have to get both
I'd make do!
When you say too slow, do you just mean max fps, or autofocus speed and shutter lag?
Even when I shoot with my film SLR, I don't normally shoot more than one picture at a time, so I guess the 1Ds, or 10D would still be suffient for me?
ehasler said:
1Ds is too slow for sport, so you'd have to get both
I'd make do!
When you say too slow, do you just mean max fps, or autofocus speed and shutter lag?
Even when I shoot with my film SLR, I don't normally shoot more than one picture at a time, so I guess the 1Ds, or 10D would still be suffient for me?
It's really the auto focus speed (same as Eos 3 and 1V), and general responsiveness. The 1D is always ready to shoot, and it has an uncanny ability to track moving objects, especially with your 300mm 2.8 on it! It's as if it's always working with you rather than sometimes getting in the way, which is what happened a lot with the D60.
Shutter lag isn't an issue with either, but the 1D is quicker.
Oh, and the 8fps lets you do silly things like this
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