Screw in macro lenses, any good?
Screw in macro lenses, any good?
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AndyKH

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1,456 posts

226 months

Sunday 10th May 2009
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Hi everyone, i'm just looking at these (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Macro-Close-Up-Lenses-for-Canon-300D-350D-400D-58mm_W0QQitemZ350199389157QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CamerasPhoto_CameraAccessories_CameraLensesFilters_JN?hash=item350199389157&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2%7C65%3A1%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50) on ebay and was wondering if they are ok for a beginer, just for messing about really while i get used to my camera? I'm not after amazin quality pictures at the minute i'm just after a quick fix until i purchase a lens specificly for macro shots. For 10 gold coins they dont seem too bad.

4hero

4,505 posts

241 months

Sunday 10th May 2009
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I had a x4 one Andy, and the results were pretty good with the kit lens!

Can't complain for the price really.

Kermit power

29,622 posts

243 months

Sunday 10th May 2009
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I had something similar that wasn't too bad, but as I recall, they prevent the lens focusing to infinity? This means you can only use the lens as a macro lens whilst it's fitted, as opposed to, say, the Canon 100mm macro which is still a normal 100mm f/2.8 prime when not being used close up.

AndyKH

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226 months

Sunday 10th May 2009
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Well thats what i was thinking, cant be too bad for 10sovs. You get +1 +2 +4 and a +10 so can use them all to make +17. Think i'll have a dabble and see.

AndyKH

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226 months

Sunday 10th May 2009
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Thats all i will be using them for kermit, so shouldnt be a problem.

richo_i

361 posts

245 months

Sunday 10th May 2009
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Hi, I have a Hoya set they are diopters to give them there correct name and there is plenty of info on line like here http://www.toledo-bend.us/index.asp?diopter . I found them to be O.K for a short time but I am now much happier with a reversed lens via the even cheaper reversing ring I bought of ebay

AndyKH

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226 months

Sunday 10th May 2009
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Is that reversing adapter literally to attatch the lens backwards? Have you got any images you've taken this way?

paul911

2,771 posts

263 months

Sunday 10th May 2009
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I also have a set attached to my kit lens 18-55mm. You can get some close up shots, but they are not in the same league as a proper macro lens. Great for a tenner though.




richo_i

361 posts

245 months

Sunday 10th May 2009
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AndyKH said:
Is that reversing adapter literally to attatch the lens backwards? Have you got any images you've taken this way?
It is indeed just that here you go

This little beut was about 2mm in length






Kermit power

29,622 posts

243 months

Sunday 10th May 2009
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AndyKH said:
Thats all i will be using them for kermit, so shouldnt be a problem.
That's what I thought too!

In reality, it's great to be able to take a macro shot of a spider, then just adjust your position to get a shot of the look of concentration on your daughter's face as she's taking her own shot, without having to mess around with unscrewing anything.

I'm not suggesting you don't get these, and for a tenner you've got nothing to lose, but don't think of a dedicated macro lens as only a macro lens. The Canon one at least is also a very decent fast prime. smile

mrmr96

13,736 posts

234 months

Sunday 10th May 2009
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I've had some better results from macro tubes than I have from diopters.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Macro-Extension-Tube-3-Rings...



One way to get macro photos is to get really close to the subject. But there's a limit to how close the camera lens can focus because as the object gets nearer to the front of the lense, the further back from the back of the lense the plane of focus gets. So you can use these tubes stacked to move the lense away from the camera body so you can get the lens mega close to objects but still be in focus because the tubes space the sensor far back from the rear of the lens.

You can stack them all and focus at about 10-20mm from the front of the lens! The problem then, however, is lighting the subject can be tricky as the lense itself can block light, depending on the light source you're using.

mrmr96

13,736 posts

234 months

Sunday 10th May 2009
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Just to add, the above are simply hollow tubes, their only function is to move the lense away from the sensor. One problem is that you lose auto focus and lose all aperture control. So best thing is to set the aperture to manual and adjust with the lens on the camera, then remove the lense without turning the camera off and the aperture stays set. You can then use manual focus on the fixed aperture.

Tycho

12,284 posts

303 months

Monday 11th May 2009
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My extension tubes are better than my diopters as with any lenses, the more glass you have, the more distorion you get. Yes you do loose the auto focus and aperture control but I actually got a legacy lens and it works great, plus it has the focus and aperture manual selectors.

Snapper7

990 posts

289 months

Monday 11th May 2009
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As a cheap option filters are ok, but if you really want to shoot macro, you would be better off getting a macro lens and or closeup extension tubes.

I have the Canon 100mm Macro which is very good and the small extension tube, the quality is far better than a filter. But you have to work out your own budget.

Edited by Snapper7 on Monday 11th May 23:42

4hero

4,505 posts

241 months

Monday 11th May 2009
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You'll get the filters then discover it doesn't get you quite close enough or produce the quality so you'll want a 100mm f2.8.
You'll get the 100mm and reverse it with some other lens, tricky to shoot and quality is so-so.
You'll then get the kenko extension tubes for the 100mm and just about knock the lens of the tubes with the flaky switches.
You'll be fed up with the flaky switches and want to get even closer and go for the MP-E65 & MT-24 flash.
Cut out all the middle stuff and dive in and get the MP-E65, you will not regret it wink

I've got the t-shirt.

Edited by 4hero on Tuesday 12th May 00:01

jon-

16,534 posts

246 months

Tuesday 12th May 2009
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Neil,

Isn't the middle stuff half the fun? smile You must learn a lot about macro photography following the upgrade path, do you think you would be as creative as you are now if you'd jumped straight in at the deep end?

AndyKH

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226 months

Tuesday 12th May 2009
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How much is that 4hero? I probably will do all that stuff but i agree thats all the fun, messing about is all part of the learning curve.

4hero

4,505 posts

241 months

Tuesday 12th May 2009
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Jon, guess you are right, it was good fun learning and I did learn a lot from it.

Andy, currently £1800 for the flash and lens from Je$$ops, glad I got mine when I did biggrin

AndyKH

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226 months

Tuesday 12th May 2009
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Yeah wont be spending that amount ever on a lens, i'm no pro and its just a hobby for me.

jon-

16,534 posts

246 months

Tuesday 12th May 2009
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The flash is half the cost though. The lens can be had for around £850. I'm not sure how much use a macro lens is without an epic flash... 4hero smile