D60 - delay in firing?
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Davi

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Sunday 19th April 2009
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Very new to this game so I may be missing something very obvious, but in low light situations my D60 is taking an absolute age to fire - it focus' almost instantly, but from achieving focus to actually firing is so long the subject has generally moved on to a distant place by the time it's done...

Seems fairly bad in most modes, or at least any mode where I'm trying to use the built in flash. (not ideal I know, but as I say, just starting out!)

andy-xr

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Sunday 19th April 2009
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What photo setting are you on? Any scene modes?

Davi

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Sunday 19th April 2009
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I've been playing with several, all seem to suffer?

andy-xr

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Sunday 19th April 2009
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Still there in full auto? Might be the self timer set to 2 seconds?

Davi

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Sunday 19th April 2009
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yeah still there in full auto. I noticed it as I was taking pics in one room in full light, went into the nursery to get some of my lad playing with his new toy and bang - nothing.

Simpo Two

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Sunday 19th April 2009
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Try using just the centre focus point, and not any fancy 'tracking 3D auto area dynamic mode'. The less the camera has to figure out, the quicker it may be.

Davi

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Sunday 19th April 2009
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I tried that, but it's not the focus bit it seems to struggle with, its firing after focus. I press to focus, red border appears around focal point (whether chosen or auto) I continue pressing to release the shutter and nothing - it sits there, waiting, apparently doing something, then fires randomly some time later?!

If I put the flash off, no problem (well, apart from st, blurred or under exposed photo's, obviously hehe)

andy-xr

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Sunday 19th April 2009
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Try pressing the AE-L/AE-F button to focus, then the shutter to fire. Does it still do it then?

And are you sure the self timers not on? I think it's next to the pop up flash button

Davi

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Sunday 19th April 2009
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Just checked self timer, definitely not on, however while trying to do the focus test the battery went from mid full to flat - I'm wondering if that's what's causing the issue as it's only there on flash use?

andy-xr

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Sunday 19th April 2009
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If you're in one of the scene modes the camera flash should pop up if it needs it, or if it thinks it needs it. Then it'll increase the shutter speed to account for the extra light from the flash

I think there's something else in one of the settings thats not being overridden by an auto mode, probably best to recharge and reset then see if it's still the same

Davi

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Sunday 19th April 2009
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OK will do, it's on charge so I'll have a play when it's refreshed.

VxDuncan

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Sunday 19th April 2009
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The D300 has a setting whereby it won't take an image unless it has confirmed focus etc. Can have a look what it's called, but it's one of the first things I turned off! Obviously the other thing to try is to do a reset on the camera (usually holding down a combination of buttons) however this won't happen if it's one of the default settings!

You're not on a live view type mode are you?

Simpo Two

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Sunday 19th April 2009
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It sounds like you're having much the same problem that I met a few times with the D700 - a second's hesitation and sometimes refusal to fire (I use focus priority release because a shot that's not in focus is no use to me). In fact at a wedding on one occasion it simply refused to cooperate and I had to use the D200 to get the shot instead.

I wonder if there is some kind of bug in Nikon's AF system? My D300 is OK though.

valve bounce66

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Sunday 19th April 2009
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my d40 does this when i manualy put flash up,i think if the camera realises the flash wont reach or the subject has moved before the flash can fire it wont allow the photo to be taken,dont know why,im no profesional,but suspect saves the battery.

beano500

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Sunday 19th April 2009
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You can quickly confirm whether or not it is the autofocus setting wanting to lock on first ("AF-Single" and whichever menu option you have set for autofocus priority) by changing to "Autofocus Continuous" (AF-C) or, better still, manual and seeing if you get the same delay.

Don't know where you will find it but the Nokin's give you so many options and I can't even begin to remember where the D2's settings are (something like custom A2 or A3), but you can choose what it does first and under what conditions it will then fire - i.e. when it's locked on or when you hit release.

VxDuncan

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Monday 20th April 2009
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Simpo Two said:
It sounds like you're having much the same problem that I met a few times with the D700 - a second's hesitation and sometimes refusal to fire (I use focus priority release because a shot that's not in focus is no use to me). In fact at a wedding on one occasion it simply refused to cooperate and I had to use the D200 to get the shot instead.

I wonder if there is some kind of bug in Nikon's AF system? My D300 is OK though.
Focus Priority release - that's the puppy I think. Won't let the shutter go unless it's 100% locked on. There's a half way stage also IIRC that will try it's best and let you take the image anyway.

Never been an issue for me as it's one of the first things I turned off when I got the camera. (good that was a bit Rockwell!)

_dobbo_

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Monday 20th April 2009
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Could it be as simple as the flash needing a little time to power up? What's your battery level like?


Davi

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Tuesday 21st April 2009
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Right - well I've found the problem, Somehow while putting the flash on I'd set flash mode to red-eye reduction, and it simply will not fire properly in that setting! Put it to standard flash mode, fires fine.

Simpo Two

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Tuesday 21st April 2009
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Davi said:
Right - well I've found the problem, Somehow while putting the flash on I'd set flash mode to red-eye reduction
banghead

Well done on tracking it down - but didn't you see the flash flickering like an electrical storm in a vain attempt to contract the subject's pupils?

Another reason to RTM - because PH isn't always there to help smile

Davi

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Wednesday 22nd April 2009
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Simpo Two said:
Davi said:
Right - well I've found the problem, Somehow while putting the flash on I'd set flash mode to red-eye reduction
banghead

Well done on tracking it down - but didn't you see the flash flickering like an electrical storm in a vain attempt to contract the subject's pupils?

Another reason to RTM - because PH isn't always there to help smile
ahhh but there's the thing - the flash isn't flickering and doing the normal red eye reduction thing - it's refusing to or delaying hideously but definitely no flickering flashiness during the delay. I don't know why it's refusing to fire on that setting, just that that is the setting that's stopping it firing, if that makes any sense tongue out

Now I need to know why (hey it's a big manual, I've had the camera 1 month and had time to get it out the box 3 times for a few hours!)

Edited by Davi on Wednesday 22 April 09:30