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Scho said:
4mp?
Life is not all about the number of pixels ! My little Canon Ixus is 10Mp or something, but is nothing like as good as ANY DSLR. Stop thinking the number of pixels denotes the quality and hence the price of a product. The 1D series are PRO cameras, Very rugged, robust workhorses. The quality of picture will be as good as any prosumer camera with the same lenses...but will probably have a far better buffer, and handle noise better.What you buy should depend on what you intend using the camera for. If its going to be used to earn you money, and therefore used a lot, and requires massive dependability under all conditions, get a 1D. If its purely for your own satisfaction and pleasure, think about getting a good quality lens to add to your range, or a top quality flash unit....or a top quality set of polarisers...or a tripod.
Difficult to help answer the question without knowing more about what you want to do with your camera. Always happy to help spend other people's money though
Tell us more.
LB
Scho said:
4mp? 
does have full frame sensor tho which is a REAL advantage.
Not quite a full frame, but larger than most. 1dS has full frame. does have full frame sensor tho which is a REAL advantage.
Could've gone for more pixels but never felt the need. 4 blows up as large as i want for prints, and i find anything larger to be cumbersome to work on. Plus I'd rather have 8FPS than 8MPX.
One thing to consider too is that the 1d has a metal body and is therefore significantly heavier than Canon's consumer range.
Edited by agent006 on Tuesday 10th June 17:01
Luca Brazzi said:
Scho said:
4mp?
Life is not all about the number of pixels ! LB
with 4mp you can't even print 10x8 @ 300dpi
for me 6 million pixels is the bare minimum to to make lugging an slr around worth while.
Edited by Scho on Tuesday 10th June 17:03
Cheers,
Currently got a 350D, with a 75-300mm IS, a 50mm 1.8, and a kit lens. I have a nice tripod, and a monopod.
I usually use it for taking pictures of cars, or my cats (when there is nothing else to take pictures of!).
Examples: http://www.flickr.com/photos/altrezia
It's simply a hobby, and after dropping my 350d a few months ago, breaking the plug-in for a 'remote shutter' thing, I've been wanting to change the body. I'm fairly happy with my zoom lens, and rarely use the other lenses.
I do like printing some of my pictures to hang on the wall, so I suppose MP is a semi-consideration.
Cheers
Al.
Currently got a 350D, with a 75-300mm IS, a 50mm 1.8, and a kit lens. I have a nice tripod, and a monopod.
I usually use it for taking pictures of cars, or my cats (when there is nothing else to take pictures of!).
Examples: http://www.flickr.com/photos/altrezia
It's simply a hobby, and after dropping my 350d a few months ago, breaking the plug-in for a 'remote shutter' thing, I've been wanting to change the body. I'm fairly happy with my zoom lens, and rarely use the other lenses.
I do like printing some of my pictures to hang on the wall, so I suppose MP is a semi-consideration.
Cheers
Al.
I'm another user of a 1D MK1 and as mentioned despite 'only' having 4.1m pixels its the quality of the sensor that counts! As I've heard said from various photographers there is just 'that somthing' that the MK1 has that produces fabulous quality shots.
You can pick up MK1's for a lot less than £600 these days if you keep your eyes open, have seem them go for closer to the £400 mark.
As mentioned you get Pro build quality and a camera that will take almost any amount of punishment. It has superior focussing to that of a 30/40D (45point focussing), higher frame rate etc etc. Ok so you dont get a very big screen on the back but i find it ok as a guide. The 1 series bodies except the DS have a 1.3x crop rather than a 1.6x crop like the 40D. Therefore when it comes to wide angle shots you dont necessarily need an ultra wide angle lens. I use a 17-40L which for me is my general purpose lens. I dont need to go any wider than 17mm
Couple of examples.... A lot of the time you'd never know these are from only 4m pixels! I dont tend to go above A4 when printing so more pixels isnt an issue for me.
You can pick up MK1's for a lot less than £600 these days if you keep your eyes open, have seem them go for closer to the £400 mark.
As mentioned you get Pro build quality and a camera that will take almost any amount of punishment. It has superior focussing to that of a 30/40D (45point focussing), higher frame rate etc etc. Ok so you dont get a very big screen on the back but i find it ok as a guide. The 1 series bodies except the DS have a 1.3x crop rather than a 1.6x crop like the 40D. Therefore when it comes to wide angle shots you dont necessarily need an ultra wide angle lens. I use a 17-40L which for me is my general purpose lens. I dont need to go any wider than 17mm
Couple of examples.... A lot of the time you'd never know these are from only 4m pixels! I dont tend to go above A4 when printing so more pixels isnt an issue for me.
350Wedge said:
I've heard said from various photographers there is just 'that somthing' that the MK1 has that produces fabulous quality shots.
I'm one of those who say that Just look at the quality of Gravy's shot that he used to post. There's something about a 1D that makes it punch way above it's weight 
Martin.
He also said that images from a 5D were better than a 1D2.
I'm in the same boat here with a 350d but prepared to spend a little more if I can be convinced. The 40d seems great value at £500 + a grip, or stretch to a new 5d (replacement due soon?) or a secondhand 1D2n?
Does the later technology (DIGIC III etc) mean that the newer prosumer cameras produce better images than the older pro cameras? Build quality is not in question here as the 1D will be much better, I believe that the 40d has a pretty sophisticated focusing system too if not quite 1D level?
If it helps lenses are:
50 f1.8 mkII
28-135IS
17-40L
100-400L
Thinking a low actuation 1d2n is a body that'll last for years and be far better than by ability will ever be capable of using. 40d has advantage of bigger screen and built in flash which can be handy at times.
It is a bloody minefield.
I'm in the same boat here with a 350d but prepared to spend a little more if I can be convinced. The 40d seems great value at £500 + a grip, or stretch to a new 5d (replacement due soon?) or a secondhand 1D2n?
Does the later technology (DIGIC III etc) mean that the newer prosumer cameras produce better images than the older pro cameras? Build quality is not in question here as the 1D will be much better, I believe that the 40d has a pretty sophisticated focusing system too if not quite 1D level?
If it helps lenses are:
50 f1.8 mkII
28-135IS
17-40L
100-400L
Thinking a low actuation 1d2n is a body that'll last for years and be far better than by ability will ever be capable of using. 40d has advantage of bigger screen and built in flash which can be handy at times.
It is a bloody minefield.
m12_nathan said:
He also said that images from a 5D were better than a 1D2.
He actually said that the 5D was better than the 1Ds 2, which it is.What's more, the 5D is better than the 1Ds 3 in some circumstances too...
A 1D for £400, plus a new battery, and I think you would have a really astonishingly good camera which you would learn a lot more from than a 40D.
On the flip side, a 40D is a nice camera too.
The 40D arrived today. I havent had much chance to play with it, and only brought my 50mm lens to work, but so far I'm very impressed. Build quality seems very good, and it looks the part. The camera fits perfectly in my hand, and all the buttons are within reach. Plus, the huge screen on the back is a godsend for a blind git like me!
Top marks so far, I'm looking forward to getting one of my cars out tonight for a mess-around with it!
Cheers
-a.
Top marks so far, I'm looking forward to getting one of my cars out tonight for a mess-around with it!
Cheers
-a.
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