photoshop/monitor set up...help!
photoshop/monitor set up...help!
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Scho

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2,479 posts

233 months

Friday 6th June 2008
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I'm running photoshop CS on my g5 powermac with a 20" apple cinema screen.

when i open images in photoshop they look WILDLY different to the way they look when i post them on the web/ view them on other machines.

when open in photoshop they seem to have more contrast, less shadow detail,more highlight detail, more saturation, generally have more vibrance.

can anyone give me some pointers to change the settings in pshop? tried to adjust it myself a while back with no joy.

what colour settings do you all run?

9.3

1,212 posts

222 months

Friday 6th June 2008
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Worst ever "I've got a but-kicking AppleMac with a big screen" post laugh !!

Scho

Original Poster:

2,479 posts

233 months

Friday 6th June 2008
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9.3 said:
Worst ever "I've got a but-kicking AppleMac with a big screen" post laugh !!

worst ever "you're just a big show off" post wink




_dobbo_

14,619 posts

278 months

Friday 6th June 2008
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Experiment with working in the SRGB colour space in photoshop, then post an image on the web and compare, you might find it more consistent.

Hope this helps!

smile

Scho

Original Poster:

2,479 posts

233 months

Friday 6th June 2008
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_dobbo_ said:
Experiment with working in the SRGB colour space in photoshop, then post an image on the web and compare, you might find it more consistent.

Hope this helps!

smile
will do,

cheers fella

switched to srgb,

still looks darker in general, with more contrast but cooler highlights.

bit odd really.


Edited by Scho on Friday 6th June 09:27

Major Bloodnok

1,561 posts

245 months

Friday 6th June 2008
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Has the monitor been calibrated with e.g a Spyder? Is photoshop set to do its own monitor calibration adjustment? IOW, is the problem that you're piling two sets of adjustments on top of each other?

Scho

Original Poster:

2,479 posts

233 months

Friday 6th June 2008
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Major Bloodnok said:
Has the monitor been calibrated with e.g a Spyder? Is photoshop set to do its own monitor calibration adjustment? IOW, is the problem that you're piling two sets of adjustments on top of each other?
fk knows??!!?

the monitor is set tp on adobe rgb 98.

i've never had a spider on it, not really that clued up about these things (as you can probably guess) frown

GetCarter

31,296 posts

309 months

Friday 6th June 2008
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There's a calibration tool in Photoshop CS - Adobe Gamma. Have you run that?

Scho

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Friday 6th June 2008
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GetCarter said:
There's a calibration tool in Photoshop CS - Adobe Gamma. Have you run that?
nope.

will check that out.

where is gamma on a mac?

don't seem to have it?

Edited by Scho on Friday 6th June 11:51

_dobbo_

14,619 posts

278 months

Friday 6th June 2008
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The idea behind my suggestion is that since most web browsers (with the exception of Safari) display images in sRGB, if you are working in sRGB then you should see the same colours in the browser.

I can understand an image looking different if you are working in a different colour space to that which the browser displays, but once you start working in sRGB that shouldn't happen any more. Most odd.

I can't see how calibrating will help - if it's the same image on the same screen but simply displayed via a different medium (photoshop vs browser) then calibrating wont change that.

scratchchin


VxDuncan

2,850 posts

264 months

Friday 6th June 2008
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_dobbo_ said:
The idea behind my suggestion is that since most web browsers (with the exception of Safari) display images in sRGB, if you are working in sRGB then you should see the same colours in the browser.

I can understand an image looking different if you are working in a different colour space to that which the browser displays, but once you start working in sRGB that shouldn't happen any more. Most odd.

I can't see how calibrating will help - if it's the same image on the same screen but simply displayed via a different medium (photoshop vs browser) then calibrating wont change that.

scratchchin
Wot he said. Make sure the apps you are viewing on support the colour space you are using. Can also proof in the colourspace you are using within PS to make sure the colours match. Somewhere in the view menu.

bulb763

870 posts

264 months

Friday 6th June 2008
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I found out a while back the difference that colour spaces can make to an image

sRGB (designed for viewing on an 8bit (common) monitor)


adobe 1998 (intended for something else - printing perhaps)


So just make sure that you convert to sRGB when mucking around in PS thumbup

stigmundfreud

22,454 posts

240 months

Friday 6th June 2008
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am I the only one to not see any differences in those two photos!

Scho CS can use its own screen profile which differs to the standard profile. I've not had to calibrate my screen as when I have tried it looks off, as standard it matches screen/print.

http://www.computer-darkroom.com/ps9_colour/ps9_1....

might help and I might give it another go but last time it messed things up.

Scho

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Friday 6th June 2008
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stigmundfreud said:
am I the only one to not see any differences in those two photos!
Nope! laugh

stigmundfreud said:
Scho CS can use its own screen profile which differs to the standard profile. I've not had to calibrate my screen as when I have tried it looks off, as standard it matches screen/print.

http://www.computer-darkroom.com/ps9_colour/ps9_1....

might help and I might give it another go but last time it messed things up.
i'l give that a whirl

been putting up with it for too long!

bulb763

870 posts

264 months

Friday 6th June 2008
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stigmundfreud said:
am I the only one to not see any differences in those two photos!
lol well its only a subtle difference but the colours in the sRGB pic are more vivid on my monitor. If you're using safari then I understand you won't see a difference either, since that is able to manage the colours, unlike IE and FF.

GetCarter

31,296 posts

309 months

Friday 6th June 2008
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_dobbo_ said:
I can't see how calibrating will help - if it's the same image on the same screen but simply displayed via a different medium (photoshop vs browser) then calibrating wont change that.

scratchchin
Note to self. Read OP before typing a response.

Scho

Original Poster:

2,479 posts

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Friday 6th June 2008
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is it just me or is colour management a complete ball ache? rolleyes



bulb763

870 posts

264 months

Friday 6th June 2008
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Scho said:
is it just me or is colour management a complete ball ache? rolleyes
Its not just you biggrin

stigmundfreud

22,454 posts

240 months

Friday 6th June 2008
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Scho said:
is it just me or is colour management a complete ball ache? rolleyes
its not just you! I followed it step for step and it made the monitor worse. I think a lot of effort is put in to getting the correct balance from factory on modern panels which is probably why I never had an issue on mine? I know CS can use a different profile or means to compensate which hopefully that guide might help you.

If I look at a shot in digital photo pro or cs2 it looks ok, if previewed in ms jpeg preview the tones look weird same on the web.

bulb763

870 posts

264 months

Friday 6th June 2008
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stigmundfreud said:
Scho said:
is it just me or is colour management a complete ball ache? rolleyes
If I look at a shot in digital photo pro or cs2 it looks ok, if previewed in ms jpeg preview the tones look weird same on the web.
That's what I get when I export from Lightroom in the ProPhoto space. very odd muted-looking colours when viewing in windows explorer. Once I've finished in PS and converted them to sRGB, they display fine.