Am I the only spoon here???
Am I the only spoon here???
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mr noble

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6,538 posts

263 months

Tuesday 17th October 2006
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Just been looking through some of the shots I took over the weekend in the South of France and was thinking just how noisey they all were.

Then I noticed that I had the ISO set at 800 for the entire time!!

Even the P mode or one of the modes like sport, portrait do not adjust the ISO.

I normally always leave it on minimum 200 setting and must have changed it for some night shots when I first got there and not put it back!


The ISO setting should be a permenant feature in the viewfinder and top display!


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Have you ever made the same mistake?

Greg

Graham@Reading

26,553 posts

255 months

Tuesday 17th October 2006
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More times than I care to admit

(although the frequency of doing that in the past has meant I now religiously check)

Edited by Graham@Reading on Tuesday 17th October 11:29

neil_cardiff

17,113 posts

294 months

Tuesday 17th October 2006
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mr noble said:
Just been looking through some of the shots I took over the weekend in the South of France and was thinking just how noisey they all were.

Then I noticed that I had the ISO set at 800 for the entire time!!

Even the P mode or one of the modes like sport, portrait do not adjust the ISO.

I normally always leave it on minimum 200 setting and must have changed it for some night shots when I first got there and not put it back!


The ISO setting should be a permenant feature in the viewfinder and top display!


bangheadbangheadbangheadbangheadbangheadbangheadbangheadbangheadbanghead




Have you ever made the same mistake?

Greg


Whats ISO?

joke... *scurries off to check his*

GetCarter

31,296 posts

309 months

Tuesday 17th October 2006
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yep.

...and I bet we could make a whole dinner service worth of cuttlery from people in here.

GetCarter

31,296 posts

309 months

Tuesday 17th October 2006
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adding:

I bracket a lot... and have been known to forget that the camera is still set to bracket... so when taking single shots only one in three is correctly exposed.

Of course this hasn't happened since... um... yesterday. paperbag

mr noble

Original Poster:

6,538 posts

263 months

Tuesday 17th October 2006
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Oh I did bracket them all! But that still wont help if you're set to 800! cry

Actually I just tend to take one at what the camera thinks is right (usually in ap priority) then I click the wheel to +1 and shoot then to -1 and shoot.

Is this correct or should I actually use the bracket buttons?

Greg the numpty.

poah

2,142 posts

258 months

Tuesday 17th October 2006
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mr noble said:

Then I noticed that I had the ISO set at 800 for the entire time!!


Have you ever made the same mistake?

Greg



yes in the studio and could nmot work out why my pics were over exposed lol

generally I wonder why the shutter is so high for the light conditions so not normally a problem outside.

TonyHetherington

32,091 posts

280 months

Tuesday 17th October 2006
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I've done it a couple of times but fortunately spotted it before it was too late!

When I turn on my 20D if I push the "Info" button on the back it comes up with the settings, so you can see if you've got it in some weird mode accidentally - I tend to do that now to make sure I don't waste a morning!

GetCarter

31,296 posts

309 months

Tuesday 17th October 2006
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mr noble said:
Oh I did bracket them all! But that still wont help if you're set to 800! cry

Actually I just tend to take one at what the camera thinks is right (usually in ap priority) then I click the wheel to +1 and shoot then to -1 and shoot.

Is this correct or should I actually use the bracket buttons?

Greg the numpty.


Ah well If I am bracketing 3 or 5 or even 7 and might want to digital blend them, I need to move the camera as little as poss - so just holding down the button makes this easier. (I just have to remember to 'un-bracket' and not be a git)

TonyHetherington

32,091 posts

280 months

Tuesday 17th October 2006
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Do you use the burst mode to do it, Carter? I have the autobracket feature (as I mentioned above on a 20D) and it only performs 3 different exposures.

How would you hold down the button and change it manually without moving the camera too much? (sorry if it's a dumb question!)

Narvanath

293 posts

253 months

Tuesday 17th October 2006
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For a good shot, when hand-held, use braket and and shoot three times on autowind. Delete the first three and last three in the series.


Edited by Narvanath on Tuesday 17th October 12:33

Gemm

1,833 posts

245 months

Tuesday 17th October 2006
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mr noble said:


The ISO setting should be a permenant feature in the viewfinder and top display!


It is on my camera.

Sorry to hear about your experience. Fortunately it hasn't happened to me (yet!).

Polarbert

17,936 posts

261 months

Tuesday 17th October 2006
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I wondered why a lot of my shots were noisy once from a local PH meet. I think I had the ISO set to 1600 or something daft after I had been at Donington. paperbag

GetCarter

31,296 posts

309 months

Tuesday 17th October 2006
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TonyHetherington said:
Do you use the burst mode to do it, Carter? I have the autobracket feature (as I mentioned above on a 20D) and it only performs 3 different exposures.

How would you hold down the button and change it manually without moving the camera too much? (sorry if it's a dumb question!)


I'm a Nikon bod, so it may be different - on mine one can set the camera to take up to 9 frames at 1/3 stop intervals - If I am handheld (70% of the time I guess) I just frame the shot, hold my breath and shoot (up to) 9 frames in a burst. Then (I'm sure you know this - but others may not) if the sky is over exposed (often!), I've a fair crack at getting one of the correctly exposed skys to 'sit' onto the correctly exposed foreground.

This handheld is two pics, and was easy to blend due to the clean line from hill to sky - the sky (from memory) a is full stop down on the rest of the pic.

www.stevecarter.com/2005/ran1.jpg

edited to add... I also had a ND grad filter on - but that still often isn't enough to smooth out the exposure.




Edited by GetCarter on Tuesday 17th October 15:08

TonyHetherington

32,091 posts

280 months

Tuesday 17th October 2006
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Ah I see - thanks. Yeah on mine I can only take three different images in the AEB (auto exposure bracketing) feature, but I can set at what range they are (i.e. how many stops up or down). I use the burst mode so it takes the shots after one another and as you say, keep it as still as possible.

Thanks for that - was just checking I was doing it right!!

(PS: I am very very new at this so please don't ever think I'll be offended if you explain something, it is appreciated!)

UKBob

16,277 posts

295 months

Tuesday 17th October 2006
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mr noble said:
Have you ever made the same mistake?

Greg
Never

Make plenty of others to make up for it though

badbeachbuggy

5,506 posts

265 months

Tuesday 17th October 2006
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I did this in a big way, see here...

www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?f=109&h=&t=259017

...it all came good in the end though with a bit of work...

www.grantgb.com/daveharriespop.htm

bernie_eccle

309 posts

276 months

Tuesday 17th October 2006
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GetCarter said:

I'm a Nikon bod, so it may be different - on mine one can set the camera to take up to 9 frames at 1/3 stop intervals - If I am handheld (70% of the time I guess) I just frame the shot, hold my breath and shoot (up to) 9 frames in a burst. Then (I'm sure you know this - but others may not) if the sky is over exposed (often!), I've a fair crack at getting one of the correctly exposed skys to 'sit' onto the correctly exposed foreground.

This handheld is two pics, and was easy to blend due to the clean line from hill to sky - the sky (from memory) a is full stop down on the rest of the pic.

www.stevecarter.com/2005/ran1.jpg

edited to add... I also had a ND grad filter on - but that still often isn't enough to smooth out the exposure.

Steve, thanks for that. I have been wondering about bracketing for some time and read the manual but it didn't explain about the "digital blending" although I did suspect that this is what was required. I then thought that it may be difficult without the camera on a tripod.

Only just started shooting raw, but that is whole different thread.

Cheers

Stewart

monkeyhanger

9,267 posts

272 months

Tuesday 17th October 2006
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mr noble said:

Have you ever made the same mistake?


Umm...confession time.


I left the 20D on ISO 3200 for a couple of hours on the Sunday morning at this year's Britcar 24 Hours. I was playing with settings during the night and forgot to change it back before grabbing a few hours sleep.

Luckily it was foggy next morning so i didn't lose anything important

UKBob

16,277 posts

295 months

Tuesday 17th October 2006
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badbeachbuggy said:
I did this in a big way, see here...

www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?f=109&h=&t=259017

...it all came good in the end though with a bit of work...

www.grantgb.com/daveharriespop.htm

I remember that thread. Good to hear it worked out ok.