Taking photos in London Aquarium...advice please
Taking photos in London Aquarium...advice please
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havoc

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33,482 posts

265 months

Wednesday 4th October 2006
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Hi all,

Am going there on Saturday, wondering whether to take the SLR or just the compact (may take it anyway for London Eye, Parliament, etc. if it looks to be a nice day).

So...is it possible to get decent photos in an aquarium? (Note: no tripod/monopod)

And if so what advice do people have about camera settings (and composition perhaps)?

Thanks,

Martin

CarMac

669 posts

244 months

Wednesday 4th October 2006
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Take it or you might regret it ! I've had some cracking pics of things behind glass without the use of a tripod etc so it's do-able. Can't remember what settings off hand. Think there was a bit of trial and error if I remember right ! Hope you have a good day. My other half went not long ago and said it was really good.

UKBob

16,277 posts

295 months

Wednesday 4th October 2006
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Are you not planning on lugging a tripod around, or do you not have one? Id say it was worth buying one especially, if you're going yes I missed out on dozens of potential shots last weekend by not taking mine.

Gemm

1,833 posts

245 months

Wednesday 4th October 2006
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UKBob said:
Are you not planning on lugging a tripod around, or do you not have one? Id say it was worth buying one especially, if you're going yes I missed out on dozens of potential shots last weekend by not taking mine.


No tripod allowed in the Aquarium though.

UKBob

16,277 posts

295 months

Thursday 5th October 2006
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Gemm said:
UKBob said:
Are you not planning on lugging a tripod around, or do you not have one? Id say it was worth buying one especially, if you're going yes I missed out on dozens of potential shots last weekend by not taking mine.


No tripod allowed in the Aquarium though.
scratchchin Then I recommed a monopod, or a gaggle of disability crutches twined together in a disguised unison of triangulation, or sorts. No one would dare confront a cripple. Wear a potato sack, no shoes or socks, and paint leperous scabs on your face for good measure.

dougc

8,241 posts

295 months

Thursday 5th October 2006
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UKBob said:
Gemm said:
UKBob said:
Are you not planning on lugging a tripod around, or do you not have one? Id say it was worth buying one especially, if you're going yes I missed out on dozens of potential shots last weekend by not taking mine.


No tripod allowed in the Aquarium though.
scratchchin Then I recommed a monopod, or a gaggle of disability crutches twined together in a disguised unison of triangulation, or sorts. No one would dare confront a cripple. Wear a potato sack, no shoes or socks, and paint leperous scabs on your face for good measure.


Bloke on cash desk at Aquarium said:
Sorry Sir, no tripods. Scabby faced shoeless lepers dressed in an old King Edwards sack are fine, Twelve pounds please

C&C

3,915 posts

251 months

Thursday 5th October 2006
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I'm far from an expert, but I got a few reasonable shots at the aquarium at London Zoo a while back.

I'd take the SLR. In general, try to get the lens right up to the glass to reduce reflections and throw any marks on the glass as far out of focus as possible. A wide aperture will help this and also increase the available shutter speed. One of the biggest problems I found was that many fish actually move around quite a lot, so getting them in focus, and sharp without motion blur can be a problem.

One other idea to reduce reflections would be ideally to have a large square of black card with a hole in the middle for the lens to poke through. Although this might not be very practical, simply wearing a black top (perhaps with a black hood) might achieve some of the same effect - if you don't mind looking a bit like the grim reaper!! Another option is to use a lenshood and push it tight up against the glass to also reduce reflections.

One other idea might be to take a cloth/baby wipes to clean any greasy fingermarks from the glass before shooting if at all practical.

Finally, I didn't use flash, but if you are going to use it (if it's allowed) you will definitely need to prevent light from the flash reflecting off the glass. The lenshood option above would no doubt help. As would using the flash off-camera if you have the appropriate kit.

All the best, and hope you get some good shots - let's see some of the results!

Conrad.

robdickinson

31,343 posts

284 months

Thursday 5th October 2006
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I've had more luck using manual focus & picking a spot and waiting for the fish to come to me.

Def have the camera(lens) up against the glass, I've used flash but not 100% happy with it like that. Prolly highish ISO and/or fast lens *would go for the 50mmf1.8 or like, unless you have IS, even then the fish usualy are moving fast.

davidd

6,718 posts

314 months

Thursday 5th October 2006
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We got a few at newquay sealife a few weeks ago..







These all had the flash on, but it was all pressed right up aginst the glass..

I then went roud again with no flash but high iso, the results were much worse...

A tripod and less people would have helped.

D


havoc

Original Poster:

33,482 posts

265 months

Thursday 5th October 2006
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Cheers all for the advice!

As I don't posess a tripod (or monopod), and I've only got the stock Canon 18-55 lens at the moment (decided I wanted an IS telefoto (for motorsport) first...but the damn thing's been on order for over 5 months ), sounds like rubber hood against the glass, flash on, widest apeture possible is the best solution. But I'll have a muck around, see what works.

Watch this space...

beyond rational

3,544 posts

245 months

Thursday 5th October 2006
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would a polarising filter help in this situation?

And what about the white balance?




Edited by beyond rational on Thursday 5th October 09:28

Bee_Jay

2,599 posts

278 months

Thursday 5th October 2006
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beyond rational said:
would a polarising filter help in this situation?

And what about the white balance?


A polarising filter is a big help but you lose a stop - but the biggest help is a lens cloth to clean the grubby kid's fingerprints off the glass and a big rubbery lens hood (as above).

If worried about white-balance, shoot RAW and set the white balance for each image when you get back home...

havoc

Original Poster:

33,482 posts

265 months

Thursday 5th October 2006
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Bee_Jay said:
If worried about white-balance, shoot RAW and set the white balance for each image when you get back home...

Oh god no, far too complicated! And too memory-intensive.

Would rather shoot 3x the number of photos across a range of settings and pick the best later...but I guess that's the beginner in me.

Bee_Jay

2,599 posts

278 months

Thursday 5th October 2006
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Not at all complicated. You take one image instead of 3 (haven't 'bracketed' for a long time) and then in Adobe Lightroom (currently a free beta) you tweak it to your heart's content. You can then take those tweaks and apply them across your entire set if you want.

RAW/JPG has been discussed at great length here before and I don't want to get my can-opener out on that one though... ;-)