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I have just returned from a photographic holiday and, whilst there, got talking to the other photographers during down time. The subject of shooting film came up and, as I still have all my old fim cameras, I thought I would dig one out and run a roll or two through it.
Whilst rummaging through my old gear to select one of them, a couple of surprises came up. Firstly, it would appear I have 6 rolls of unused colour negative film that I had abviously forgotten about. It's 13 years old now, so probably no good, but I will run one through the camera and get it developed to see how it goes.
More surprisingly, one of the cameras had a partially exposed film still in it (25 shots taken on a 36 exposure film). I have got no idea what the shots are of, but I will get it developed just to see if there is anything salvageable there.
Meanwhile I have bought 3 rolls of fresh B&W film, so I am looking forward to running those through and re-living that experience of not really knowing if you have captured somehting worth keeping until the film is processed.
Whilst rummaging through my old gear to select one of them, a couple of surprises came up. Firstly, it would appear I have 6 rolls of unused colour negative film that I had abviously forgotten about. It's 13 years old now, so probably no good, but I will run one through the camera and get it developed to see how it goes.
More surprisingly, one of the cameras had a partially exposed film still in it (25 shots taken on a 36 exposure film). I have got no idea what the shots are of, but I will get it developed just to see if there is anything salvageable there.
Meanwhile I have bought 3 rolls of fresh B&W film, so I am looking forward to running those through and re-living that experience of not really knowing if you have captured somehting worth keeping until the film is processed.
funinhounslow said:
I double checked to make sure it’s not April 1st. Are they targeting the vinyl buying hipsters?Drogo]uninhounslow said:
Funnily enough Pentax have just released a film camera…
Yea saw that £500 yea right, would you not buy an old "proper" film camera?
K1000 + 35mm less than £200, if I was in the market, yes please!
Yep. Nikon FM2 with a 50mm. Easy. And it ain’t gonna shoot silly half frames. Yea saw that £500 yea right, would you not buy an old "proper" film camera?
K1000 + 35mm less than £200, if I was in the market, yes please!
Tony1963 said:
funinhounslow said:
I double checked to make sure it’s not April 1st. Are they targeting the vinyl buying hipsters?DIW35 said:
Meanwhile I have bought 3 rolls of fresh B&W film, so I am looking forward to running those through and re-living that experience of not really knowing if you have captured somehting worth keeping until the film is processed.
Enjoy! This week I was just looking through some old negs of shots from the 90’s. You mentioned B&W - I used to love shooting Ilford HP5 and getting it push processed (shot at 1600) . The grain and contrast was very addictive. If you haven’t tried before, you should maybe give one of your rolls a try. Out of interest, what does it cost to process a 36exp b&w these days?
That feeling of anticipation and excitement….. oh I miss it. Don’t miss the feeling when all your shots turn out really bad though!
Tony1963 said:
funinhounslow said:
I double checked to make sure it’s not April 1st. Are they targeting the vinyl buying hipsters?https://amateurphotographer.com/review/pentax-k-3-...
I enjoy using my aging KS1 but Pentax do seem to be releasing some odd products of late…
As film and lens quality improved, half frame cameras became quite popular in the 1960s. Olympus, Canon,Pentax and others all made them. Yashica made the half-frame Samurai in the late 80s that shot landscape images but therefore the film had to run vertically like a movie camera. It came in left and right handed versions. If this new Pentax seems expensive, remember that the K1000 was $300 when launched (according to Wikipedia), the equivalent to about $1,600 today.
tog said:
As film and lens quality improved, half frame cameras became quite popular in the 1960s. Olympus, Canon,Pentax and others all made them. Yashica made the half-frame Samurai in the late 80s that shot landscape images but therefore the film had to run vertically like a movie camera. It came in left and right handed versions. If this new Pentax seems expensive, remember that the K1000 was $300 when launched (according to Wikipedia), the equivalent to about $1,600 today.
But, this modern thing is a cheap piece of crap. Seriously: spend £500 on almost any 35mm SLR from the 90s up to the early 00s, and you should have a wonderful camera that’ll come with a guarantee and won’t lose much, if any money at all. And, lots and lots of lenses etc to choose from.
For example:
There is no point in this Pentax thing.
DIW35 said:
I have just returned from a photographic holiday and, whilst there, got talking to the other photographers during down time. The subject of shooting film came up and, as I still have all my old fim cameras, I thought I would dig one out and run a roll or two through it.
Whilst rummaging through my old gear to select one of them, a couple of surprises came up. Firstly, it would appear I have 6 rolls of unused colour negative film that I had abviously forgotten about. It's 13 years old now, so probably no good, but I will run one through the camera and get it developed to see how it goes.
More surprisingly, one of the cameras had a partially exposed film still in it (25 shots taken on a 36 exposure film). I have got no idea what the shots are of, but I will get it developed just to see if there is anything salvageable there.
Meanwhile I have bought 3 rolls of fresh B&W film, so I am looking forward to running those through and re-living that experience of not really knowing if you have captured somehting worth keeping until the film is processed.
For the unused film, overexpose by 1 stop, (so if its 400 treat it as 200 film etc) film 50 years old still works but becomes very slow, and also you might get some 'weirdness/ random 'artistic looks' from it Whilst rummaging through my old gear to select one of them, a couple of surprises came up. Firstly, it would appear I have 6 rolls of unused colour negative film that I had abviously forgotten about. It's 13 years old now, so probably no good, but I will run one through the camera and get it developed to see how it goes.
More surprisingly, one of the cameras had a partially exposed film still in it (25 shots taken on a 36 exposure film). I have got no idea what the shots are of, but I will get it developed just to see if there is anything salvageable there.
Meanwhile I have bought 3 rolls of fresh B&W film, so I am looking forward to running those through and re-living that experience of not really knowing if you have captured somehting worth keeping until the film is processed.
) but generally 13years old should be good still as long as it didnt boil in the loftFilm cameras are not just for skinny jeans hipsters (im in my 50's and skinny jeans would not be a good look (although i am partial to avocado toast..) but ive swing straight back into the film way and have a few medium format cameras of my dreams, Hasselblad and fuji 617 for examples.
Personally i enjoy the act of taking a photo the most from photography, and IMO manual cameras give you the best experience of this with the tactile dials loud shutters.
I also find that you also tend to look for different subjects than with digital, for me 'patina' comes up in my mind when searching something out
Anyhow, shoot your film, enjoy, if you don't, sell the camera and let others enjoy it instead
and as to the new Pentax, agreed, half frame 35mm i would not of thought is where the market is, although it does allow cheap running by doubling a 36exposure film, and with a portrait format, works for street photography which ia s film hot spot
Leica just started remaking the M6 film camera too if you have very deep pockets....
Edited by satans worm on Monday 24th June 13:35
Edited by satans worm on Monday 24th June 13:36
satans worm said:
half frame 35mm i would not of thought is where the market is, although it does allow cheap running by doubling a 36exposure film, and with a portrait format, works for street photography which ia s film hot spot
And no doubt because it makes the photos look like they were taken with a phone - ie vertical - which is sadly becoming the norm.This thread reminded me I have this lurking ignored for many years in the spare room
Just had a quick Google and nearly fell off my chair. I had no idea these were so highly regarded and how much good ones are worth.
Might shell out for a new battery and roll of film and see how I go…
ETA Just seen that Pentax K1000 can be has for about £150 and I understand it will take my K mount lenses. Food for thought if my experiment with the Yashica is a success.
This is of course dependent on the cost of processing these days…
Just had a quick Google and nearly fell off my chair. I had no idea these were so highly regarded and how much good ones are worth.
Might shell out for a new battery and roll of film and see how I go…
ETA Just seen that Pentax K1000 can be has for about £150 and I understand it will take my K mount lenses. Food for thought if my experiment with the Yashica is a success.
This is of course dependent on the cost of processing these days…
Edited by funinhounslow on Tuesday 25th June 08:45
LOL at that Pentax... especially for £500!
There is absolutely no way I would be buying something like that when, as already pointed out, eBay, Facebook marketplace, and everywhere else, is absolutely full of extremely good quality 35mm cameras for fairly cheap prices. That thing won't be anywhere near as good as a cheap Nikon/Canon/Fuji etc from the 80's and 90's.
There is absolutely no way I would be buying something like that when, as already pointed out, eBay, Facebook marketplace, and everywhere else, is absolutely full of extremely good quality 35mm cameras for fairly cheap prices. That thing won't be anywhere near as good as a cheap Nikon/Canon/Fuji etc from the 80's and 90's.
funinhounslow said:
This thread reminded me I have this lurking ignored for many years in the spare room
Just had a quick Google and nearly fell off my chair. I had no idea these were so highly regarded and how much good ones are worth.
Might shell out for a new battery and roll of film and see how I go…
Wow!Just had a quick Google and nearly fell off my chair. I had no idea these were so highly regarded and how much good ones are worth.
Might shell out for a new battery and roll of film and see how I go…
I've got one of these as well and remember they were renowned for having a good lens back in the day, which is why I bought it. It got relatively little use, as I've also had SLRs, and digital came in shortly after I bought it. After your comment I thought I'd see what they were going for, expecting £50-£100. Totally shocked. Think I'll run a film through it and then sell it to help fund other photo related goodies! I already have other working film cameras - Pentax MX, and Canon EOS 30v, so I'm unlikely to use the T4.
Thanks.
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This is of course dependent on the cost of processing these days…
Just lazily ran this through ChatGPT
How much does a roll of 35mm film cost to buy and develop in the uk
The cost of buying and developing a roll of 35mm film in the UK can vary based on the type of film and the services chosen for developing. Here are the typical costs:
Buying 35mm Film
- **Standard Color Film (e.g., Kodak Gold, Fuji C200):** £5 - £10 per roll.
- **Professional Color Film (e.g., Kodak Portra, Fujifilm Pro 400H):** £10 - £15 per roll.
- **Black and White Film (e.g., Ilford HP5 Plus, Kodak Tri-X):** £5 - £10 per roll.
- **Specialty Films (e.g., slide film, cine film):** £10 - £20 per roll.
Developing 35mm Film
- **Standard Developing (C-41 Process for color negative film):** £5 - £10 per roll.
- **Black and White Developing:** £7 - £12 per roll.
- **Slide Film Developing (E-6 Process):** £8 - £15 per roll.
Additional Costs
- **Scanning to Digital:** £5 - £10 per roll, depending on resolution.
- **Prints:** £0.10 - £0.50 per print, depending on size and quality.
Example Total Costs
- **Standard Color Film:** £5 (film) + £7 (developing) = £12 per roll.
- **Professional Color Film:** £12 (film) + £7 (developing) = £19 per roll.
- **Black and White Film:** £7 (film) + £8 (developing) = £15 per roll.
These prices are approximate and can vary depending on the retailer and processing lab. Some labs offer packages that include developing, scanning, and prints, which can be more economical. Additionally, prices may vary slightly based on location and availability.
This is of course dependent on the cost of processing these days…
Just lazily ran this through ChatGPT
How much does a roll of 35mm film cost to buy and develop in the uk
The cost of buying and developing a roll of 35mm film in the UK can vary based on the type of film and the services chosen for developing. Here are the typical costs:
Buying 35mm Film
- **Standard Color Film (e.g., Kodak Gold, Fuji C200):** £5 - £10 per roll.
- **Professional Color Film (e.g., Kodak Portra, Fujifilm Pro 400H):** £10 - £15 per roll.
- **Black and White Film (e.g., Ilford HP5 Plus, Kodak Tri-X):** £5 - £10 per roll.
- **Specialty Films (e.g., slide film, cine film):** £10 - £20 per roll.
Developing 35mm Film
- **Standard Developing (C-41 Process for color negative film):** £5 - £10 per roll.
- **Black and White Developing:** £7 - £12 per roll.
- **Slide Film Developing (E-6 Process):** £8 - £15 per roll.
Additional Costs
- **Scanning to Digital:** £5 - £10 per roll, depending on resolution.
- **Prints:** £0.10 - £0.50 per print, depending on size and quality.
Example Total Costs
- **Standard Color Film:** £5 (film) + £7 (developing) = £12 per roll.
- **Professional Color Film:** £12 (film) + £7 (developing) = £19 per roll.
- **Black and White Film:** £7 (film) + £8 (developing) = £15 per roll.
These prices are approximate and can vary depending on the retailer and processing lab. Some labs offer packages that include developing, scanning, and prints, which can be more economical. Additionally, prices may vary slightly based on location and availability.
The Pentax is a ridiculous thing. But hopefully it awakens a market, if it can find it's feet (I doubt it will) and a couple of other manufacturers start producing competition then film will start getting made in higher quantities and developing will become cheaper again.
But I can't see it finding it's feet at all. I used Pentax cameras for years, but they always seemed to just miss the mark a bit, with the k1000 and me-super (and the lovely mx) they found a real niche, the student market with the k1000 and the compact slr market with the me-super, I had all 3 and the mx was my favourite but all were lovely. The trouble is that Nikon, Canon and Olympus existed.
Now the problem a film camera has is digital exists and ultimately camera phones. I really have to make an effort to take a camera out because my phone can take spectacular pictures, I'm not going to decide to use a half frame film camera instead for any job at all, and do kids care enough about looking cool to spend £500 on it? Half the time you see someone walking around with an old slr it's not even got a film in it, it's a prop, and an old Olympus trip would do that job just as well I reckon.
But I can't see it finding it's feet at all. I used Pentax cameras for years, but they always seemed to just miss the mark a bit, with the k1000 and me-super (and the lovely mx) they found a real niche, the student market with the k1000 and the compact slr market with the me-super, I had all 3 and the mx was my favourite but all were lovely. The trouble is that Nikon, Canon and Olympus existed.
Now the problem a film camera has is digital exists and ultimately camera phones. I really have to make an effort to take a camera out because my phone can take spectacular pictures, I'm not going to decide to use a half frame film camera instead for any job at all, and do kids care enough about looking cool to spend £500 on it? Half the time you see someone walking around with an old slr it's not even got a film in it, it's a prop, and an old Olympus trip would do that job just as well I reckon.
C n C said:
funinhounslow said:
This thread reminded me I have this lurking ignored for many years in the spare room
Just had a quick Google and nearly fell off my chair. I had no idea these were so highly regarded and how much good ones are worth.
Might shell out for a new battery and roll of film and see how I go…
Wow!Just had a quick Google and nearly fell off my chair. I had no idea these were so highly regarded and how much good ones are worth.
Might shell out for a new battery and roll of film and see how I go…
I've got one of these as well and remember they were renowned for having a good lens back in the day, which is why I bought it. It got relatively little use, as I've also had SLRs, and digital came in shortly after I bought it. After your comment I thought I'd see what they were going for, expecting £50-£100. Totally shocked. Think I'll run a film through it and then sell it to help fund other photo related goodies! I already have other working film cameras - Pentax MX, and Canon EOS 30v, so I'm unlikely to use the T4.
Thanks.
But yes, price is obscene..
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