Another What Camera!?
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Always loved photography. I always had point and shoot cameras growing up. Eventually I bought a DSLR and a few lenses, and learned a little about the technical side of photography. However, the purchase of the DSLR is ironically where I hit a road block. I simply didn't use it. I found it too cumbersome to lug around the hot and humid holiday destinations I wanted it for. Furthermore, the post-photo processing I simply never got around to. I disappointed myself to be honest and fell out of love. I sold all my kit a couple of years ago.
Now, I would like to purchase a camera to capture moments with my growing family. Much of its use will be in and around the house, with some use on day trips and holidays. My requirements are:
- Not cumbersome and ideally could fit in a jacket pocket.
- Ability to get photos onto my 2019 Apple Macbook Pro without a cable.
- Photo quality significantly better than what an iPhone offers, particularly for portrait photography.
- Budget up to around £600, if possible.
Does what I am after exist, or should I just stay in my line with my smartphone!?
Now, I would like to purchase a camera to capture moments with my growing family. Much of its use will be in and around the house, with some use on day trips and holidays. My requirements are:
- Not cumbersome and ideally could fit in a jacket pocket.
- Ability to get photos onto my 2019 Apple Macbook Pro without a cable.
- Photo quality significantly better than what an iPhone offers, particularly for portrait photography.
- Budget up to around £600, if possible.
Does what I am after exist, or should I just stay in my line with my smartphone!?
Firstly, which iPhone do you have?
If you want the convenience, a smartphone really is the only answer for most people. The portrait mode on the later iPhones, for example, is pretty good. It's not as good as a well composed shot with an f/1.4 85mm dSLR lens, but you're not interested in that!
If you want the convenience, a smartphone really is the only answer for most people. The portrait mode on the later iPhones, for example, is pretty good. It's not as good as a well composed shot with an f/1.4 85mm dSLR lens, but you're not interested in that!
Most pocket cameras have limitations, mainly because a 1 inch sensor is desirable but this limits the zoom. There are compromises.
For example, I have a Panasonic TZ100 which has the sensor and a viewer but it doesn't have a flip screen and only has 10x zoom. So I have a Canon SX740HS which has the flip and 40x zoom but no viewer so photos are often a guess.
Ideally, I would want the sensor, the viewer, 30x zoom, flip screen and the Panasonic menu for effects. Don't know if that camera exists.
For example, I have a Panasonic TZ100 which has the sensor and a viewer but it doesn't have a flip screen and only has 10x zoom. So I have a Canon SX740HS which has the flip and 40x zoom but no viewer so photos are often a guess.
Ideally, I would want the sensor, the viewer, 30x zoom, flip screen and the Panasonic menu for effects. Don't know if that camera exists.
AdviceHunter said:
Always loved photography. I always had point and shoot cameras growing up. Eventually I bought a DSLR and a few lenses, and learned a little about the technical side of photography. However, the purchase of the DSLR is ironically where I hit a road block. I simply didn't use it. I found it too cumbersome to lug around the hot and humid holiday destinations I wanted it for. Furthermore, the post-photo processing I simply never got around to. I disappointed myself to be honest and fell out of love. I sold all my kit a couple of years ago.
Now, I would like to purchase a camera to capture moments with my growing family. Much of its use will be in and around the house, with some use on day trips and holidays. My requirements are:
- Not cumbersome and ideally could fit in a jacket pocket.
- Ability to get photos onto my 2019 Apple Macbook Pro without a cable.
- Photo quality significantly better than what an iPhone offers, particularly for portrait photography.
- Budget up to around £600, if possible.
Does what I am after exist, or should I just stay in my line with my smartphone!?
Sony RX100 is generally the answer to this type of query (just get the best one you can afford) - the image quality would be miles better than a phone anyway Now, I would like to purchase a camera to capture moments with my growing family. Much of its use will be in and around the house, with some use on day trips and holidays. My requirements are:
- Not cumbersome and ideally could fit in a jacket pocket.
- Ability to get photos onto my 2019 Apple Macbook Pro without a cable.
- Photo quality significantly better than what an iPhone offers, particularly for portrait photography.
- Budget up to around £600, if possible.
Does what I am after exist, or should I just stay in my line with my smartphone!?
LuS1fer said:
Most pocket cameras have limitations, mainly because a 1 inch sensor is desirable but this limits the zoom. There are compromises.
For example, I have a Panasonic TZ100 which has the sensor and a viewer but it doesn't have a flip screen and only has 10x zoom. So I have a Canon SX740HS which has the flip and 40x zoom but no viewer so photos are often a guess.
Ideally, I would want the sensor, the viewer, 30x zoom, flip screen and the Panasonic menu for effects. Don't know if that camera exists.
Sony RX10iii or RX10iv is probably the closest you would get but they are the size and weight of a DSLR with a medium sized lens on so no good for the OP For example, I have a Panasonic TZ100 which has the sensor and a viewer but it doesn't have a flip screen and only has 10x zoom. So I have a Canon SX740HS which has the flip and 40x zoom but no viewer so photos are often a guess.
Ideally, I would want the sensor, the viewer, 30x zoom, flip screen and the Panasonic menu for effects. Don't know if that camera exists.
I have a Mk iii and could provide some sample images if anybody is interested.
I have a Panasonic FZ1000, sort of equivalent to the Sony RX10 mentioned above, but yes it is a bit big and bulky. So...I keeping checking out the Panasonic LX100, which is smaller, with a brighter lens and a bigger sensor. Not so much zoom though, but adequate. They are available used on MPB from £240, with a warranty. Hmmm..
AdviceHunter said:
Thanks for the feedback everyone. How about something like Olympus OM-D E-M10 III? Would that be appropriate?
For the avoidance of doubt, size-wise I meant not as big as a DSLR. As in, could go into a coat pocket, not a trouser pocket. If that helps!
Lovely little camera - I have not used one but it would certainly do the job for you image quality wise and they are nice and small also For the avoidance of doubt, size-wise I meant not as big as a DSLR. As in, could go into a coat pocket, not a trouser pocket. If that helps!
DibblyDobbler said:
AdviceHunter said:
Thanks for the feedback everyone. How about something like Olympus OM-D E-M10 III? Would that be appropriate?
For the avoidance of doubt, size-wise I meant not as big as a DSLR. As in, could go into a coat pocket, not a trouser pocket. If that helps!
Lovely little camera - I have not used one but it would certainly do the job for you image quality wise and they are nice and small also For the avoidance of doubt, size-wise I meant not as big as a DSLR. As in, could go into a coat pocket, not a trouser pocket. If that helps!
I have an EOS M100 as a small camera for when I don't want to carry a big DSLR with me and I'm very happy with it. I only ever use the fixed 22mm with it. It is about the same size as a Fuji X100 but nicer to use and half the price. (The X100 is lovely, but I wanted one for ages - until I got one and found I just didn't get on with it.) The M50 is a also surprisingly nice little camera and I very nearly got one for the viewfinder, but the smaller size and price of the M100 won me over. The M100 is now the M200, but the M100 it still available in a kit with the 22mm.
However you imply you don't want to do any post-processing, so bear in mind (if you are comparing to your iPhone X or a 12 later this year) that camera phone photos are heavily post processed by the phone (auto HDR, night mode, etc), so generally look great (on a small screen at least) with no effort at all.
However you imply you don't want to do any post-processing, so bear in mind (if you are comparing to your iPhone X or a 12 later this year) that camera phone photos are heavily post processed by the phone (auto HDR, night mode, etc), so generally look great (on a small screen at least) with no effort at all.
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Sony RX100 is probably the answer here, though you might want to try to find a Model VI which has a longer zoom than the others (I'm going to replace my Model Va for this very reason).
Another option, though it's bulkier, particularly once you start adding lenses, would be one of the A6000 range. For example:
https://www.parkcameras.com/p/7015046K/mirrorless-...
Another option, though it's bulkier, particularly once you start adding lenses, would be one of the A6000 range. For example:
https://www.parkcameras.com/p/7015046K/mirrorless-...
Thanks for the feedback everyone. I’m looking into all of these options. Very helpful indeed.
One thing that I particularly enjoyed with my DSLR was using the 50mm f/1.8 fixed lens. I notice that some of the recommendations do not support changing lenses. I am quite keen on the portrait side of photography.
What options would be best to use a fixed lens (or something comparable), with my other requirement? The Olympus OM-D EM10?
One thing that I particularly enjoyed with my DSLR was using the 50mm f/1.8 fixed lens. I notice that some of the recommendations do not support changing lenses. I am quite keen on the portrait side of photography.
What options would be best to use a fixed lens (or something comparable), with my other requirement? The Olympus OM-D EM10?
Edited by AdviceHunter on Friday 1st May 16:16
AdviceHunter said:
Always loved photography. I always had point and shoot cameras growing up. Eventually I bought a DSLR and a few lenses, and learned a little about the technical side of photography. However, the purchase of the DSLR is ironically where I hit a road block. I simply didn't use it. I found it too cumbersome to lug around the hot and humid holiday destinations I wanted it for. Furthermore, the post-photo processing I simply never got around to. I disappointed myself to be honest and fell out of love. I sold all my kit a couple of years ago.
Now, I would like to purchase a camera to capture moments with my growing family. Much of its use will be in and around the house, with some use on day trips and holidays. My requirements are:
- Not cumbersome and ideally could fit in a jacket pocket.
- Ability to get photos onto my 2019 Apple Macbook Pro without a cable.
- Photo quality significantly better than what an iPhone offers, particularly for portrait photography.
- Budget up to around £600, if possible.
Does what I am after exist, or should I just stay in my line with my smartphone!?
Just buy an expensive smart phone it will do everything you need by far. It's all 90% of people need these days.Now, I would like to purchase a camera to capture moments with my growing family. Much of its use will be in and around the house, with some use on day trips and holidays. My requirements are:
- Not cumbersome and ideally could fit in a jacket pocket.
- Ability to get photos onto my 2019 Apple Macbook Pro without a cable.
- Photo quality significantly better than what an iPhone offers, particularly for portrait photography.
- Budget up to around £600, if possible.
Does what I am after exist, or should I just stay in my line with my smartphone!?
I was in the same position as you OP, I had a Sony DSLR with a few lenses which never got used. I never wanted to lug the full weight of all the kit around so invariably ended up either with the wrong lens or just taking the kit lens. I sold the lot and after considering bridge cameras like the RX10 (awesome zoom, bloody massive) and micro 4/3 (when you add a lens they aren't much smaller than a DSLR and you still have the hassle of changing lenses and lugging them all with you) I ended up buying a Panasonic LX100.
It has a great Leica lens, a larger sensor than the RX100 and generally does everything I need.
It has a great Leica lens, a larger sensor than the RX100 and generally does everything I need.
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