Car Photography Courses v2

[taxboy]

I'll try again as I obviously had issues with the forum last night - 3 blank postings. Mods please could you remove these TIA

What my post should have said
Is anyone aware or can recommend a car photography workshop please. I've come across James Mann at Beaulieu and Jason Dodd at Brooklands but wondered if there are any others to consider.

I searched the forum but the most recent results go back to 2014

[kman]

are you looking at online courses or go to on site workshops? I don't think there are many go to workshops to be honest. Tim Wallace does some here and there.

And in any case what sort of shoot would you want to learn? studio lighting? on location?

There are lots of online courses though.

[taxboy]

kman said:

are you looking at online courses or go to on site workshops? I don't think there are many go to workshops to be honest. Tim Wallace does some here and there.

And in any case what sort of shoot would you want to learn? studio lighting? on location?

There are lots of online courses though.

Thanks for that. Ideally on location and also including the use of additional lighting and or light painting.
I've had a look at YouTube but I find I learn better if there is someone who is able to offer immediate feedback / suggestions .

[kman]

taxboy said:

Thanks for that. Ideally on location and also including the use of additional lighting and or light painting.
I've had a look at YouTube but I find I learn better if there is someone who is able to offer immediate feedback / suggestions .

Don't think anyone around who offers live on location tuition for lighting/light painting unless you want to set something up directly (can give me a shout).

Tim as I said does studio lighting courses but thats a very different way of shooting cars.

Best bet is to look online. Easton Chang has a car photography tutorial, also lots on https://www.liveclasscommune.com/.

[GetCarter]

Honestly, work it out for yourself. All the best do.

[F355GTS]

GetCarter said:

Honestly, work it out for yourself. All the best do.

I learned by buying a nice Camera off a bloke called Steve then copied what he did with it, tbf I never got anywhere near as good as him

oh and I did read Peter Mann's how to photograph cars

[taxboy]

kman said:

Don't think anyone around who offers live on location tuition for lighting/light painting unless you want to set something up directly (can give me a shout).

Tim as I said does studio lighting courses but thats a very different way of shooting cars.

Best bet is to look online. Easton Chang has a car photography tutorial, also lots on https://www.liveclasscommune.com/.

Thanks for that. Il check out Easton Chang and spend some more time on YouTube

[Rogue86]

GetCarter said:

Honestly, work it out for yourself. All the best do.

Everyone finds their feet in a different way and structured learning really can have its benefits in getting there quicker. I haven't been on one of Tims seminars but he strikes me as someone who knows what he's doing both from a business and photography perspective. Although it is studio-based, I imagine there are lessons to be learned there that you can take outside.

[GetCarter]

Rogue86 said:

GetCarter said:

Honestly, work it out for yourself. All the best do.

Everyone finds their feet in a different way and structured learning really can have its benefits in getting there quicker. I haven't been on one of Tims seminars but he strikes me as someone who knows what he's doing both from a business and photography perspective. Although it is studio-based, I imagine there are lessons to be learned there that you can take outside.

Sorry if I sounded rather dogmatic!

I just think that the best way to learn anything artistic (be it music, photography or whatever), is just to do it. When you work something out for yourself you get a true understanding, a proper light bulb moment - being told something by someone may help, but it's nowhere near as cathartic.

I would never dream of teaching photography (God forbid), but I used to teach music at degree level, and the first thing I got my students to do was get on stage and perform. There's nothing more motivating than jumping in at the deep end!

I do understand that people have different ways of learning photography, but I'd always advocate getting out there and taking as many photos as you can and when photos don't look like you want, work out why.

All IMHO of course.

ETA... Hi Mark!

Edited by GetCarter on Wednesday 13th March 11:44

[Rogue86]

GetCarter said:

Sorry if I sounded rather dogmatic!

Not at all I was self-taught and reasonably successful for a number of years. Then I joined the RAF and received proper, structured training. It opened up a whole new world for me I think because I went into it with a base knowledge and I was taught almost nothing in terms of creativity. I've then since been able to expand massively on what I learned.

I reckon it developed my skillset in a way that 5-10 years of experience at that pace might have given me.

[silobass]

Timeline Events have just run a supercar shoot and they do a rally day. Not sure if it's the sort of thing you are after but might be worth checking their site out just in case.

I've just had a quick look and couldn't see any photos from it but I'm sure someone posted them on their facebook feed. Will have another look later but I have to go out.

Edited by silobass on Wednesday 13th March 16:58

[wtdoom]

taxboy said:

I'll try again as I obviously had issues with the forum last night - 3 blank postings. Mods please could you remove these TIA

What my post should have said
Is anyone aware or can recommend a car photography workshop please. I've come across James Mann at Beaulieu and Jason Dodd at Brooklands but wondered if there are any others to consider.

I searched the forum but the most recent results go back to 2014

Hello.

I am legendary for absolutely crap photos , mrs doom literally used to get strangers to take pictures of us rather than let me near a camera .

Recently I was given a Leica m10 by my friends and family . I used GFWilliams for a couple of hours( https://gfwilliams.net ) . We have covered the basics , technical aspects of photography ( I now only use manual) , set up , light and it’s effects , tripod use , composition , care of equipment etc . Then we did a lightroom tutorial and it got someone like me ( just alien with computers , I use iPad for everything and feared editing software more than you can imagine) to getting able to work the software and basically do what I want to do in the photo in no time at all .

I honestly can not recommend his services highly enough and will be going back for some more advanced stuff when I get back to the uk .
It’s also been real fun driving around , finding locations etc . Although car photography isn’t my main interest (it’s secodn of the list) it’s enabled me to enjoy car photography and has helped me with the things I want to photograph , so no need to think it’s restrictive in any way shape or form . The software stuff is a revelation !

I took these myself after a couple of hours, black car , at night , hand held with no lighting , the only problem is none of the family belive I took these photos !

[GetCarter]

wtdoom said:

Hello.

I am legendary for absolutely crap photos , mrs doom literally used to get strangers to take pictures of us rather than let me near a camera .

Recently I was given a Leica m10 by my friends and family . I used GFWilliams for a couple of hours( https://gfwilliams.net ) . We have covered the basics , technical aspects of photography ( I now only use manual) , set up , light and it’s effects , tripod use , composition , care of equipment etc . Then we did a lightroom tutorial and it got someone like me ( just alien with computers , I use iPad for everything and feared editing software more than you can imagine) to getting able to work the software and basically do what I want to do in the photo in no time at all .

I honestly can not recommend his services highly enough and will be going back for some more advanced stuff when I get back to the uk .
It’s also been real fun driving around , finding locations etc . Although car photography isn’t my main interest (it’s secodn of the list) it’s enabled me to enjoy car photography and has helped me with the things I want to photograph , so no need to think it’s restrictive in any way shape or form . The software stuff is a revelation !

I took these myself after a couple of hours, black car , at night , hand held with no lighting , the only problem is none of the family belive I took these photos !

George was on here many years ago as a beginner. He always had an eye and a talent. Good to see he's making the most of it.

[singlecoil]

GetCarter said:

George was on here many years ago as a beginner. He always had an eye and a talent. Good to see he's making the most of it.

According to his website his talent is immense.

[GetCarter]

singlecoil said:

GetCarter said:

George was on here many years ago as a beginner. He always had an eye and a talent. Good to see he's making the most of it.

According to his website his talent is immense.

[Kewy]

GetCarter said:

Sorry if I sounded rather dogmatic!

I just think that the best way to learn anything artistic (be it music, photography or whatever), is just to do it. When you work something out for yourself you get a true understanding, a proper light bulb moment - being told something by someone may help, but it's nowhere near as cathartic.

I would never dream of teaching photography (God forbid), but I used to teach music at degree level, and the first thing I got my students to do was get on stage and perform. There's nothing more motivating than jumping in at the deep end!

I do understand that people have different ways of learning photography, but I'd always advocate getting out there and taking as many photos as you can and when photos don't look like you want, work out why.

All IMHO of course.

ETA... Hi Mark!

Edited by GetCarter on Wednesday 13th March 11:44

Got to agree with this. Pick up tips and tricks from people by all means. But this is no science and there is no one-way to do it! Beauty of the arts is that you can do what you like! If you get someone to 'teach' you, then you're only learning their way of doing things.

Go out with your camera, play around with settings and lenses, go out at different times of day in different weather conditions and see what it does to the lighting. Shoot into the sun, shoot away from the sun, shoot with and without harsh shadows, shoot reflections, shoot portrait, shoot landscape… you get the idea

No one can teach you to have an eye for photography, or to 'look' for a good photo. That all comes with experience and by consciously looking at things differently. Everything else (technical stuff) you can learn via Youtube and books.

Find your own style, learn from mistakes and first and foremost – enjoy the craft

[singlecoil]

Kewy said:

Got to agree with this. Pick up tips and tricks from people by all means. But this is no science and there is no one-way to do it! Beauty of the arts is that you can do what you like! If you get someone to 'teach' you, then you're only learning their way of doing things.

Go out with your camera, play around with settings and lenses, go out at different times of day in different weather conditions and see what it does to the lighting. Shoot into the sun, shoot away from the sun, shoot with and without harsh shadows, shoot reflections, shoot portrait, shoot landscape… you get the idea

No one can teach you to have an eye for photography, or to 'look' for a good photo. That all comes with experience and by consciously looking at things differently. Everything else (technical stuff) you can learn via Youtube and books.

Find your own style, learn from mistakes and first and foremost – enjoy the craft

This is excellent advice. See if you can find a new way of photographing cars, and avoid the clichés such as parking the car at an angle across a deserted road, or in dark graffitied urban decay settings.

[mudnomad]

...and for crying out loud - don't think you need fancy cars for good photos!

It's so tiring to see aspiring car photographers doing the same : going to car meets which are IMO THE WORST place for car photography due to crowds, the way cars are parked etc, thinking that the quality of the car will influence the quality of the photo.

I'd so much rather see an amazing photo of a Skoda Fabia than a st photo of a Veyron.

[Kewy]

mudnomad said:

...and for crying out loud - don't think you need fancy cars for good photos!

It's so tiring to see aspiring car photographers doing the same : going to car meets which are IMO THE WORST place for car photography due to crowds, the way cars are parked etc, thinking that the quality of the car will influence the quality of the photo.

I'd so much rather see an amazing photo of a Skoda Fabia than a st photo of a Veyron.

Very true.

I don't even bother getting the camera out at meets these days. Usually at night time, with yellow flourescent lighting and as you say, busy crowded and very little of interest in terms of 'scenery'.

Anyway, stop giving people photography advice and go on a road trip or make a new YT video – your channel has been too quiet for my liking!!

[I Love Cake]

It's also worth understand the 'exposure triangle' and how each part of it affects the other. Along with aperture to affect depth of field and the shutter speed to convey movement, for example. Have fun.