One lens to rule them all?

One lens to rule them all?

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shed driver

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2,324 posts

166 months

Monday 11th February 2019
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Sorry for the LOTR reference.

I've just got back from a RyanAir limited baggage special and was wondering what's the best (cheapest) EF fit zoom lens that covers a wide range? I've always stuck with L lenses from 17 up to 400 mm, sadly Mr O'leary won't give me enough space to pack them all so I've had to just take the 24-105 L f/4. It's a great lens but not enough reach for wildlife sadly.

Any suggestions? Cheap as chips is best!

SD.

DailyHack

3,414 posts

117 months

Tuesday 12th February 2019
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What body? You could fit the 24-105L onto a cropped body? If your already full frame then ignore that...

You can pick up used 70-200L - quite cheap, but what is cheap to you?

https://www.mpb.com/en-uk/used-equipment/used-phot...

anonymous-user

60 months

Tuesday 12th February 2019
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I have a 28-300 L which is great if it's bright enough but it's only f3.5-5.6 so shallow depth of field is out.

Most flexible lens by far though

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

196 months

Tuesday 12th February 2019
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shed driver said:
what's the best (cheapest)
SD.
Best is unlikely to be cheapest. wink So what are you actually after?

I used this lens last year and got on very well with it. Highly usable in a lot of situations.

https://www.wexphotovideo.com/canon-ef-s-18-135mm-...


The do one to 200mm as well, but don't know if it's as good or not.

silobass

1,195 posts

108 months

Tuesday 12th February 2019
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70-200 is a great lens, doesn't have to be the 2.8, the 4 is great too.

shed driver

Original Poster:

2,324 posts

166 months

Tuesday 12th February 2019
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Cheers guys,

Its for full frame so has to be an EF fitting. I enjoy wildlife photography, but the coast was pretty stunning so going as wide as possible is a bonus.

SD.

Craikeybaby

10,633 posts

231 months

Tuesday 12th February 2019
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Whatever long lens you want to take and then the EF 40mm pancake lens?

DailyHack

3,414 posts

117 months

Tuesday 12th February 2019
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Craikeybaby said:
Whatever long lens you want to take and then the EF 40mm pancake lens?
This definitely, great lens - it's used as my travel/documentary lens on my 5d, great DOF on a full frame body - lovely and sharp but discreet even on a brick!

Edited by DailyHack on Tuesday 12th February 12:59

mike80

2,277 posts

222 months

Tuesday 12th February 2019
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I've got one of these for travel https://www.tamron.eu/lenses/sp-af-70-300-f4-56-di... . I use it on a Canon 6D.

Works really well for what it is, and cheap to buy. For work I've got a pair of 1DX, 70-200 2.8, 300 2.8 etc. etc. etc. so I'm used to top of the range kit, but I can't fault the little Tamrom zoom. That and a 24-105 shouldn't weigh too much.

DIW35

4,157 posts

206 months

Tuesday 12th February 2019
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70-200 together with a 2x convertor. Should cover most bases.

anonymous-user

60 months

Tuesday 12th February 2019
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shed driver said:
Cheers guys,

Its for full frame so has to be an EF fitting. I enjoy wildlife photography, but the coast was pretty stunning so going as wide as possible is a bonus.

SD.
I don't think there is a lens that covers wildlife and landscapes. My go to for that would be my 28-70 f2.8 and my 70-200 f2.8, and possibly pack a 1.4x extender.

Tony1963

5,194 posts

168 months

Tuesday 12th February 2019
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DIW35 said:
70-200 together with a 2x convertor. Should cover most bases.
Hardly cheap as chips, and if it’s with a lens slower than f/2.8, autofocus can suffer quite badly.

What this comes down to is how much the OP can stretch the budget to. Without knowing that, guessing is as pointless as ever. There’s a finite number of lenses out there, so a budget will narrow it down greatly.

shed driver

Original Poster:

2,324 posts

166 months

Tuesday 12th February 2019
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Budget up to about £500, ideally less. The 28-300 L ticks boxes but is sadly too expensive.

Perils of a last minute Ryan Air flight I guess.

SD.

Tony1963

5,194 posts

168 months

Tuesday 12th February 2019
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Canon EF 70-200mm f/4L USM Is £439 from HDEW. Cracking piece of glass.

GroundEffect

13,864 posts

162 months

Tuesday 12th February 2019
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You want a super telephoto, for full-frame, for under £500? Good luck!

Wildlife photography must be really hard on FF - I use a D7500 (APS-C) with an 80-400 Nikkor, so effectively 600mm but even then birds are hard work.

A good all-rounder if you can stretch a bit further: Tamron 18-400



Tony1963

5,194 posts

168 months

Tuesday 12th February 2019
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GroundEffect said:
You want a super telephoto, for full-frame, for under £500? Good luck!

Wildlife photography must be really hard on FF - I use a D7500 (APS-C) with an 80-400 Nikkor, so effectively 600mm but even then birds are hard work.

A good all-rounder if you can stretch a bit further: Tamron 18-400
Not for full frame

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

260 months

Tuesday 12th February 2019
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Tamron do a FF 28-300 no idea on quality.

https://www.tamron.eu/lenses/28-300mm-f35-63-di-vc...

SCEtoAUX

4,119 posts

87 months

Saturday 16th February 2019
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Pay for extra luggage and take whatever you wish.

blueSL

632 posts

232 months

Saturday 16th February 2019
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GroundEffect said:
Wildlife photography must be really hard on FF - I use a D7500 (APS-C) with an 80-400 Nikkor, so effectively 600mm but even then birds are hard work.
Using a cropped sensor camera doesn’t magically increase the effective focal length of a lens. All it does it to crop the image you’d get on a full frame camera, the size of the bird image remains the same so using a cropped sensor camera confers no advantage at all other than lower cost.

High ratio zooms like a 28-300 can be useful but the image quality suffers from the compromises needed, especially resolution and distortion at each end.

I agree about tele-converters. They’re a relic from the film era. You lose 2 f-stops with a x2 converter, autofocus suffers and all it’s doing is effectively magnifying the image on the sensor, warts and all. That forces you to use a higher ISO, wider lens aperture or slower shutter speed, all of which are bad news when it comes to image quality when photographing wildlife.

Far better to take the best shot you can through a slightly stopped-down lens, take care of camera shake and your ISO/shutter speed choice and then crop the image.

ApOrbital

10,121 posts

124 months

Saturday 23rd February 2019
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No help but the one my mate has costs more than my house.