Sony RX100 vi Announced

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strummerville

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1,017 posts

133 months

Tuesday 26th June 2018
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I've long been a fan of the RX100, a small, genuinely pocketable camera with a decent image quality. I've had the Mk1 since 2013, and keep thinking about an upgrade.

One of the main things that the current models struggle with is a decent shallow depth of field, and the 70mm equivalent lens was never really going to do much to assist. However, I've just seen that the main improvement on the Mk 6 is a 200mm equivalent telephoto.

This first impressions from DP Review: https://www.dpreview.com/articles/8956183476/sony-...

I think I'd better get saving up...

peter tdci

1,807 posts

156 months

Tuesday 26th June 2018
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I've got the RX100 IV and my only real gripe with it is that I'd love a bit more reach than 70mm equivalent. However, at the short end, the lens will open to f1.8. The new model does f2.8 at the same focal length so, if you are looking for a shallow depth of field, won't you be worse off?

strummerville

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1,017 posts

133 months

Tuesday 26th June 2018
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Maybe - but a longer focal length naturally gives a shorter depth of field. In my film camera days, a 100mm lens was seen as a ‘portrait’ lens. I’ll have a play with one, but suspect using 200mm even at f4 it will be better than 70mm at f2.8.

GetCarter

29,558 posts

285 months

Tuesday 4th December 2018
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I finally got one of these today (having also the Mk1 and Mk3).

Lots of improvements... shame the lens lets in less light, but I guess that's the price for a 24-200. I'll keep the Mk3 in the other pocket!

First pic (light not brilliant today) :


Porsche911R

21,146 posts

271 months

Wednesday 5th December 2018
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all zooms are very flawed in this sort of range

so you loose sharpness at the low and high end and loose the F1.8

seems daft, ! and a stupid price

I thought every one buys mirrorless now days any way, best move I did was a Mirrorless compact, small and it takes my L lens if needed.

Now just an expensive travel zoom , shame on you Sony, one to avoid at this price.

Luca Brazzi

3,978 posts

271 months

Wednesday 5th December 2018
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Was on sale at £780 equiv. in Australia over black Friday weekend, which is a massive saving compared to UK. Heading there next week for Xmas, but just could not justify that on a compact right now.

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Annoyed now that I've seen GetCarter's photo.....stunning.

GetCarter

29,558 posts

285 months

Wednesday 5th December 2018
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Porsche911R said:
all zooms are very flawed in this sort of range

so you loose sharpness at the low and high end and loose the F1.8

seems daft, ! and a stupid price

I thought every one buys mirrorless now days any way, best move I did was a Mirrorless compact, small and it takes my L lens if needed.

Now just an expensive travel zoom , shame on you Sony, one to avoid at this price.
Err... First, it is a mirrorless camera.

Second, It doesn't have F1.8

Thirdly. Read the reviews.


Edited by GetCarter on Wednesday 5th December 10:51

Porsche911R

21,146 posts

271 months

Wednesday 5th December 2018
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GetCarter said:
Err... First, it is a mirrorless camera.

Second, It doesn't have F1.8

Thirdly. Read the reviews.
mirrorless with changeable lens like an SLR I should have said.

correct, I said it's lost F1.8

reviews are poor, as you cannot have your cake and eat it, you even said you will carry the other one in your pocket !!

bit of a fail imo all round and a bit of a rip off.

GetCarter

29,558 posts

285 months

Wednesday 5th December 2018
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GetCarter said:
Porsche911R said:
GetCarter said:
Err... First, it is a mirrorless camera.

Second, It doesn't have F1.8

Thirdly. Read the reviews.
mirrorless with changeable lens like an SLR I should have said.

correct, I said it's lost F1.8

reviews are poor, as you cannot have your cake and eat it, you even said you will carry the other one in your pocket !!

bit of a fail imo all round and a bit of a rip off.
We're reading different reviews. Gets mid 80s everywhere I look, and btw, I have mirrorless with changeable lenses too, this one is for the pocket! (as was the RX100 1 and 3). Both of which paid for themselves, as I'm sure this one will too.

It's only a rip off if it cost you money you can't afford and doesn't do what you expect. It won't cost me a penny and does exactly what I want.

HTH smile

ETA RX100 Mk6 this morning - 24mm



200mm

Edited by GetCarter on Wednesday 5th December 11:49

DibblyDobbler

11,310 posts

203 months

Wednesday 5th December 2018
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GetCarter said:
ETA RX100 Mk6 this morning - 24mm



200mm

Shame - that's really just not working at all is it hehe

Reckon you can tell much of a difference over the earlier versions?





GetCarter

29,558 posts

285 months

Thursday 6th December 2018
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DibblyDobbler said:
Shame - that's really just not working at all is it hehe

Reckon you can tell much of a difference over the earlier versions?
Well apart from the 200ness, the a/f is lightning quick, it does 4K vid and impressive slo mo, the menu system is better than Mk 3 (but still a bit pants), it opens up and closes down much faster, does 24 fps bursts, screen now a touch screen, and a few other nice details - opening up EVF (much better quality than the 3) turns camera on etc. etc.

It's stupidly expensive, so unless people want the reach (which is why I bought it) I still think the earlier versions are better value (also letting in more light). But as you know I get VAT back and it's tax deductible, so price isn't much of an issue for me.

It is an astonishing bit of pocket sized kit,



.....considering my first camera looked like this (bought from a jumble sale in 1968):




Edited by GetCarter on Thursday 6th December 06:51

Porsche911R

21,146 posts

271 months

Thursday 6th December 2018
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GetCarter said:
It won't cost me a penny and does exactly what I want.

HTH smile
A Free camera is always the best, but was a daft comment for effect on a forum as now you state "It's stupidly expensive" :-(



GetCarter

29,558 posts

285 months

Thursday 6th December 2018
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Porsche911R said:
GetCarter said:
It won't cost me a penny and does exactly what I want.

HTH smile
A Free camera is always the best, but was a daft comment for effect on a forum as now you state "It's stupidly expensive" :-(
It won't cost me because it'll earn me more than it costs. Doesn't meant it ain't expensive!

Whatever. Be happy.

Elderly

3,534 posts

244 months

Thursday 6th December 2018
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GetCarter said:
It won't cost me because it'll earn me more than it costs. Doesn't meant it ain't expensive!

Ahh - but you'd probably be earning similar from the previous incarnation in your other pocket
with no need to spend the money on the latest version biggrin.



GetCarter

29,558 posts

285 months

Thursday 6th December 2018
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Elderly said:
Ahh - but you'd probably be earning similar from the previous incarnation in your other pocket
with no need to spend the money on the latest version biggrin.
Last one only goes to 70 mm.. I need a stretch to get this!



:0)

DibblyDobbler

11,310 posts

203 months

Thursday 6th December 2018
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GetCarter said:
Well apart from the 200ness, the a/f is lightning quick, it does 4K vid and impressive slo mo, the menu system is better than Mk 3 (but still a bit pants), it opens up and closes down much faster, does 24 fps bursts, screen now a touch screen, and a few other nice details - opening up EVF (much better quality than the 3) turns camera on etc. etc.

It's stupidly expensive, so unless people want the reach (which is why I bought it) I still think the earlier versions are better value (also letting in more light). But as you know I get VAT back and it's tax deductible, so price isn't much of an issue for me.

It is an astonishing bit of pocket sized kit,
Reckon Torridon would look good even on a Box Brownie Steve! Quite tempted by one of these or something similar but as my current photo equipment is basically gathering dust at the moment it's probably not going to happen for a bit. I had an early version for a while and it could do the business but I weirdly found it almost too small and a bit fiddly to use - the concept is brilliant though. Look forward to seeing some more results on Tw@tter (if O2 ever get their act together!). Cheers smile

Porsche911R

21,146 posts

271 months

Tuesday 11th December 2018
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GetCarter said:
Last one only goes to 70 mm.. I need a stretch to get this!



:0)
not done on the new Sony though !

Coolbanana

4,418 posts

206 months

Tuesday 11th December 2018
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GetCarter said:
Well apart from the 200ness, the a/f is lightning quick, it does 4K vid and impressive slo mo, the menu system is better than Mk 3 (but still a bit pants), it opens up and closes down much faster, does 24 fps bursts, screen now a touch screen, and a few other nice details - opening up EVF (much better quality than the 3) turns camera on etc. etc.

It's stupidly expensive, so unless people want the reach (which is why I bought it) I still think the earlier versions are better value (also letting in more light). But as you know I get VAT back and it's tax deductible, so price isn't much of an issue for me.

It is an astonishing bit of pocket sized kit,



.....considering my first camera looked like this (bought from a jumble sale in 1968):




Edited by GetCarter on Thursday 6th December 06:51
Superb pictures!

I hadn't realised this camera had been released. I have the Mk IV and skipped the V but have now today ordered the VI. The RX100 is great for when carrying a DSLR is just not feasible and I'm happy to sacrifice the low light 1.8 for greater range. I don't like to bring my DSLR kit to Amsterdam or to my In-Laws in Belgium with me every month and always have the little Sony on me instead. Also good for when out cycling or hiking light.

GetCarter

29,558 posts

285 months

Tuesday 11th December 2018
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Coolbanana said:
I hadn't realised this camera had been released. I have the Mk IV and skipped the V but have now today ordered the VI. The RX100 is great for when carrying a DSLR is just not feasible and I'm happy to sacrifice the low light 1.8 for greater range. I don't like to bring my DSLR kit to Amsterdam or to my In-Laws in Belgium with me every month and always have the little Sony on me instead. Also good for when out cycling or hiking light.
:0)

1/13 of a sec handheld ISO 125


Gandahar

9,600 posts

134 months

Tuesday 11th December 2018
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The problem with Sony cameras is that apart from the A5100 they are all over priced for what they do