New Versions of Lightroom

[davidd]

It seems lightroom has had a couple of revisions. Existing CC becomes Classic CC with some improvements.
New CC is now much more cloud (groan). £15 per month.

I'm upgrading my classic so expect swearing.

here

[steveatesh]

End of perpetual licencing too do I'll be looking elsewhere when the time comes to replace. LR 6 will do me for now, but I'll be taking more interest in the alternatives that are emerging.

[8bit]

So this means no upgrade path for Lightroom 6 without going to a subscription model? No thanks...

[craig1912]

I don’t use it enough to justify the money, so I’ve cancelled as my annual renewal was is due next month. Now looking for alternatives.

[JulianHJ]

I'm on CC already, so I upgraded this afternoon. I've not used it yet, but have read up and watched some videos. The range masking feature looks very useful for me, probably as much as dehaze was on the last major revision.

[steveatesh]

craig1912 said:

I don’t use it enough to justify the money, so I’ve cancelled as my annual renewal was is due next month. Now looking for alternatives.

Any chance of coming back and telling us what you decided upon please?

[Not Ideal]

JulianHJ said:

I'm on CC already, so I upgraded this afternoon. I've not used it yet, but have read up and watched some videos. The range masking feature looks very useful for me, probably as much as dehaze was on the last major revision.

Range masking looks genuinely useful.

[Robertj21a]

steveatesh said:

Any chance of coming back and telling us what you decided upon please?

+1, me too please.

[steveatesh]

Two options I’m researching at the moment are Affinity and Luminar, both seem to get good write ups but seem to be more photoshop alternatives than LR alternatives.

Maybe if they had a good means of asset management they would be more like LR?

There is Capture One Pro of course which in my view was better than LR in any case, but a lot more expensive.

Decisions decisions, no rush though, LR hasn’t suddenly stopped working!

[craig1912]

steveatesh said:

Two options I’m researching at the moment are Affinity and Luminar, both seem to get good write ups but seem to be more photoshop alternatives than LR alternatives.

Maybe if they had a good means of asset management they would be more like LR?

There is Capture One Pro of course which in my view was better than LR in any case, but a lot more expensive.

Decisions decisions, no rush though, LR hasn’t suddenly stopped working!

There’s also Rawtherapee but as you say they all seem to be more like PS - no image management- I went to cancel and they’ve given me a free two months so plenty of time to look at alternatives

[Craikeybaby]

I've had a brief look at this, and on the surface it looks like a good option for me.

When I swapped my "on the road machine" from an iPad to a MacBook I lost the integration with the Lightroom catalog on my main computer. I had a clunky workaround with separate catalogs and the web interface. The new set up looks ideal, with Classic on my main computer and the new lightweight Lightroom CC on my MacBook for when I'm out and about. From what I can tell the pricing stays the same for classic, unless you upgrade to the 1TB storage, however I think that 20GB will be fine for my needs.

[8bit]

So I noticed last night that the Creative Cloud app manager/updater thing is offering to "update" my Lightroom 6 installation to Lightroom Classic CC. It makes no mention of having to start any subscription or part with any cash by any means. What will happen if I do that?

[silobass]

FWIW, as far as I can see, the increase in cost is only if you want 1TB of storage, still a tenner for the standard storage.

[singlecoil]

With the sort of work I do, I rarely use Lightroom so I think I will wait until my needs change, in the meantime I'll continue to do everything in Camera Raw and Photoshop. I had Capture One for a year but didn't renew as I couldn't get on with the UI, might have been ok if I'd wanted to put the hours in learning it, but I didn't.

[page3]

I’m finding On1 RAW (2018 beta) quite good. Better UI than lightroom and Capture 1 and really, really fast. I’d still like to see some asset improvements though.

Luminar have a demo video showing their DAM due 2018 which looks quite good.

Affinity I’ve given up with as their DAM is over 2 years overdue.

[steveatesh]

page3 said:

I’m finding On1 RAW (2018 beta) quite good. Better UI than lightroom and Capture 1 and really, really fast. I’d still like to see some asset improvements though.

Luminar have a demo video showing their DAM due 2018 which looks quite good.

Affinity I’ve given up with as their DAM is over 2 years overdue.

I haven’t really looked at ON1 RAW.
Luminar are supposed to be releasing their 2018 Supernova version soon and the DAM will be a free upgrade to that version next year.

The info is that if you buy it in the pre order stage you get cheaper and some add ins too.

I’m going to give the free trial a go and see what it’s like .

[9.3]

Had a little fiddle with the new CC, but find any images it saves are all automatically resized to 1024 longest side, so about a 300kb file size.
Obviously need to change a setting somewhere ...... if I can find it.

[JohnS]

I'm another LR6 stand alone user who doesn't want to go to the subscription model. I don't use photoshop, and for the 0.01% of things where I need to do some cloning or add text, I've got photoshop elements which does that just fine.

As most of my kit is 5+ years old now, there's no real need for me to have the latest version (I've lived without the dehaze function for example) to cater for the newest cameras. I've decided to stick with my stand alone version of LR6 for the next 2 years or thereabouts and see how things progress both with Adobe and their competitors. if the classic stand-alone version is still going strong, then I'll likely subscribe at that point, but keep my stand-alone LR6 that I can always revert to using RAW to DNG conversion if I feel the need to end the subscription.

I'll put the £240 savings (assuming the price doesn't rise) towards some new kit

[singlecoil]

Excellent video on the difference between the Classic and the new CC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMSNcM7C0UE

[silobass]

singlecoil said:

Excellent video on the difference between the Classic and the new CC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMSNcM7C0UE

Thanks for that. I had a horror thought that I was almost being forced to go to the new version last night but that's clearly not the case. I don't think the new CC is for me as I like my files on my hard drive and having the full range of tools available. Uploading a couple of 32gb cards to the cloud isn't going to be a quick process, even if I can do it off line. Those with limited internet usage could struggle. The into 1tb version isn't going to last that long in reality and you'll be faced with upgrading for more additional monthly cost in the future.

I do like the sound of Adobe Sensei - having keywords and tags automatically would be amazing!