Which low/mid range Mirrorless camera?

Which low/mid range Mirrorless camera?

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Bezerk

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404 posts

165 months

Sunday 24th September 2017
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I think I am down to 2 choices - Lumix G80 or the new Olympus E-M10 Mark III. Budget around £1000 including the lens.

The idea is to put on a 14-140 lens and never change it, although I'll probably end up buying a super wide one at some point.

The Olympus is newer but autofocus on the Panasonic better according to reviews with the Olympus not coping very well with moving subjects which will be a large part of what I plan ot use it for.

Has anyone experience of these cameras, any opinions or other contenders I have missed?
Not looked at Sony at all.

Looking to buy within the next Week.

Thanks

Lynchie999

3,461 posts

159 months

Sunday 24th September 2017
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Bezerk said:
Has anyone experience of these cameras, any opinions or other contenders I have missed?
Not looked at Sony at all.


Thanks
This. you answered your own question ... look at the sony before you buy!

DavidY

4,469 posts

290 months

Sunday 24th September 2017
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You should at least look at Fuji and Sony

Both have larger sensors APS-C (against M43) and usually are better in low light, but glass (esp for the Fuji) can be expensive

Mirrorless cameras are not great for locking onto high speed objects, but the Fuji (I speak from experience) has excellent tracking modes which work very well.

I would certainly consider the X-T20+18-55, but if reach is a requirement consider X-T20 +16-50 + 50-230

I prefer the handling of the Fuji's, though the specs of Panasonics are good and the 4K photo stuff is neat (if thats your thing).

This website might be helpful http://www.camerapricebuster.co.uk/

You'll get a lot more help from forum members if you indicated what you want to mainly use the camera for (and whether video is important)

Derek Smith

46,325 posts

254 months

Sunday 24th September 2017
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I've got the Panasonic G5 with the 14-140, I too thinking that it would be enough, but I eventually bought the 100-300 lens.

The set up is excellent for what I want. The anti-shake means that even at 300, if I'm braced, the images are of good quality. That said, I normally use a monopod or tripod.

I have found the autofocus works very well for motor sport except when cars are coming towards me at speed. Even then, if there's enough of the side apparent, it is OK.

The 4K video with the 1-second before the button is pressed, which I thought was a bit of a gimmick, is a revelation. The other systems that I've cracked are also superb. Some take time to set up but then I reckon that goes for most. The switch from autofocus to manual is a bit cumbersome for someone with big hands but otherwise I have no criticisms of the controls. The two top dials make things easy, and the various function buttons are spread around the camera so it's easy enough to find a finger to operate.

I do a fair bit of video where it excels. I have two dedicated video cameras and I haven't used them since I've bought the G5.

I'm like most people I suppose; a new camera is great at first and then the problems are found. The G5 though is different. One minor problem because of big hands is great for a budget camera.

It is horses for courses. The most important aspect I think is in handling. The camera must feel right in the hand. If it doesn't then it never becomes comfortable. I went to Park Cameras and played with a selection of similar cameras and the G5 felt best, significantly better than most. Try it; but if it feels wrong, then all the clever subroutines and fabulous reviews mean nothing.

I've no connection with Panasonic, despite also having an FZ150, but if the company wants to shower me in gifts, please feel free to do so.


Andy M

3,755 posts

265 months

Monday 25th September 2017
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Without a shadow of doubt, Fuji.

Learn from my costly 'errors' (moving from Canon 1Ds3 -> Leica M9 -> Nikon D800e -> Sony A7r2 -> Fuji X-T2, all in the space of 5 years with Panasonic cameras dotted about - GF1 and GX8), the Fuji is the most enjoyable system to use.

bazza white

3,613 posts

134 months

Monday 25th September 2017
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:For photo use look at the Sony, if it's more video go with the lumix. I'm loving my gx85. The Better IS swayed me on the lumix.

First lense purchase arrives tomorrow biggrin

Not Ideal

2,942 posts

194 months

Friday 29th September 2017
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I have a Sony A6300 used solely for still work and I love it. Lot of camera for the money as well.

Monty Python

4,813 posts

203 months

Wednesday 4th October 2017
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Have you considered the Sony SLT A68 - DSLR without a moving mirror.

Sensei Rob

313 posts

85 months

Wednesday 4th October 2017
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Another vote for the Sony A6300 or even the A6000 if you want super cheap. The A6300 is better though. You may be disappointed if you just stick to a zoom lens, whichever brand you go for, Better to have a zoom and nice prime lens.