A Canon DSLR that shoots video
A Canon DSLR that shoots video
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Simpo Two

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92,687 posts

294 months

Saturday 25th January 2014
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Friends are looking for one of these but funds are limited. He wants it for home movies, she wants it for stills and requires (1) fill-flash (2) +/- EV when on Auto, and operated from buttons not menus. They were told the body to do this would be £800 - which seems high to me. She has a Canon DSLR at present so wants to stay with that make for lenses etc.

Can a Canon bod provide a brief rundown of entry/midrange video-capable bodies please?

Siscar

6,315 posts

158 months

Saturday 25th January 2014
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£239 from Wex would give an 1100D that would do video. Essentially all of the DLSRs Canon do new now do video.

LongQ

13,864 posts

262 months

Saturday 25th January 2014
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600D has full HD video resolution but I'm no expert on the different frame rates and stuff.

Its Full Auto mode means full auto - camera makes all decisions. However P mode (Program AE) allows button control access to exposure compensation. I have never used it but assume that it will use either Aperture or Shutter speed according to which seems the most appropriate or fall back to Auto ISO if neither of the other values seems to be adjustable within the parameters that someone has probably established for a user wishing to use P mode.

The manual must be on line if they want to check what is what. Usually for the product information pages on the Canon web site although this model might be archived by now.

I think the 550D is the same except maybe not quite as comprehensive for Video.

600D available from around £330 iirc.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Canon-EOS-600D-DSLR-Came...


LongQ

13,864 posts

262 months

Saturday 25th January 2014
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Canon 100D is under £400 body only and supposed to be pretty handy for Video - not sure about it's controls though as I have not checked what it offers.

ETA.

A quick glance at the dpreview review seems to suggest that is has button access to the exposure compensation function and adjustment via the usual wheel.

Edited by LongQ on Saturday 25th January 16:22

The_Jackal

4,854 posts

226 months

Saturday 25th January 2014
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The reason they were probably quoted £800 is that they wanted most of the controls on buttons not menus.
That goes for Nikon or Canon.
Is they have an older Prosumer body at the moment and the controls are what is important, then that will dictate what they will want to buy/spend.
As has been said, all of them do video these days.
To be fair you probably know more about DSLRs than most of us anyway lol

rottie102

4,033 posts

213 months

Saturday 25th January 2014
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Every current Canon body will shoot HD video and every one of them below 6D will have flash built in and EV adjustment.

However the only Canon DSLR that is actually usable for video without £100s of accessories, rigs etc is 70D due to Dual Pixel AF.
£689 from DigitalRev.com

Edited by rottie102 on Saturday 25th January 17:47

jurbie

2,440 posts

230 months

Saturday 25th January 2014
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I assume that the 70D would still need a good external microphone?

rottie102

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213 months

Saturday 25th January 2014
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jurbie said:
I assume that the 70D would still need a good external microphone?
Most likely, just like any other DSLR

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

283 months

Saturday 25th January 2014
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70d will be the best one with autofocus, a lot of people into video will be using manual focus lenses and lat/converted lenses because you can and its fun and cheap.

To do it properly you will need a rig (some cheap ones around) and external mike etc too.

But I think every canon SLR made in the last few years has all the features asked, some as said need a button held whilst turning a dial to do exp comp but its not a huge problem

LongQ

13,864 posts

262 months

Saturday 25th January 2014
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I would guess on the video front we would need to understand how far "home video" might extend.

If they already have a Canon DSLR and it is something at the consumer end of the market and pre video availability it might be a 400D or similar. I've had one of those for some years. The 600D is a way better body to use - things like settings are much more accessible.
and usable.

I bought mine mainly for use with manual lenses where the sensor resolution is good to have but the automated stuff is, of course, not a primary factor to consider.

ExPat2B

2,159 posts

229 months

Sunday 26th January 2014
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650d has continous autofocus both phase and contrast in video.
Whatever you do you will want to replace the firmware with magic lantern as that gives full aperture control and other goodies and is the primary reason most pros are using canon dslrs for video

Simpo Two

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92,687 posts

294 months

Sunday 26th January 2014
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Thanks all; I've sent him the link so he can read the replies and make his own mind up. I don't do Canon or DSLR video!

mrmr96

13,736 posts

233 months

Sunday 26th January 2014
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Why not use a video camera for video? Will be much easier to use than trying to use a DSLR?

EdT

5,239 posts

313 months

Sunday 16th March 2014
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LongQ said:
Canon 100D is under £400 body only and supposed to be pretty handy for Video - not sure about it's controls though as I have not checked what it offers.

ETA.

A quick glance at the dpreview review seems to suggest that is has button access to the exposure compensation function and adjustment via the usual wheel.

Edited by LongQ on Saturday 25th January 16:22
Yup. Got one. Is ace.

EdT

5,239 posts

313 months

Sunday 16th March 2014
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mrmr96 said:
Why not use a video camera for video? Will be much easier to use than trying to use a DSLR?
+1.

Also keep storage needs in mind; the .MOV files my 100D makes are hefty when compared to my Canon video camera.

Simpo Two

Original Poster:

92,687 posts

294 months

Sunday 16th March 2014
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They have limited funds and his wife wants to shoot stills, so a DSLR that shoots video would do both jobs. And she has Canon lenses from an older camera.

Can't comment on file types as it's all changed since I did video.


He has been pondering this for so long that I am tempted simply to buy the damn thing for them for Christmas!

EdT

5,239 posts

313 months

Sunday 16th March 2014
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One thing to know.. def use an external mic if not using an 'STM' lens. these are stepper motor lenses so you cant hear them focussing. Normal lenses are very audible on the internal mic's recording.

.. or manual focus it

andrewrob

2,913 posts

219 months

Sunday 16th March 2014
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Look up Magic Lantern. Fantastic third party software for canon cameras, loads of extra features for shooting video.
I run it on my 550D. I used the autofocus with a couple of different STM lenses on the 650D and wasn't that impressed. Once you get used to manual focusing you won't want to use the auto anyway.


LongQ

13,864 posts

262 months

Monday 17th March 2014
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Simpo Two said:
He has been pondering this for so long that I am tempted simply to buy the damn thing for them for Christmas!
Which year?


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DS3Phil

27 posts

154 months

Monday 17th March 2014
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For video I have a canon EOS M, coupled with a canon adapter you can use ef and efs lenses. Only just got it myself but extremely happy so far and looking forward to getting to grips with video.

Think the eos m is basically the 600D in a mirror less camera form.