New Nikon D600
Discussion
see the new D600 has been officially announced today, 24MP full frame, 39 point AF, 100-6400AF, 5.5fps.
Seems to be pretty much a full frame D7000, however the UK price seems high, £1955 for the body only which is only a few hundred quid less than the D800.
US price is $2100 so paying a lot more here, some of that is due to VAT but not all.
had it been a bit cheaper i may have considered getting one, but i think i'll either try saving up for a D800, or wait to see if theres a D400 comes out..
Seems to be pretty much a full frame D7000, however the UK price seems high, £1955 for the body only which is only a few hundred quid less than the D800.
US price is $2100 so paying a lot more here, some of that is due to VAT but not all.
had it been a bit cheaper i may have considered getting one, but i think i'll either try saving up for a D800, or wait to see if theres a D400 comes out..
chrisj_abz said:
....... however the UK price seems high, £1955 for the body only which is only a few hundred quid less than the D800.
At the moment it's only £144 less than the D800 http://www.cameraworld.co.uk/ViewProdDetails.asp?p...and I can't see any reason (other than weight) not to spend that little bit extra on a D800 instead at this moment;
of course it will come down in price and quite quickly I would think.
Having done a bit of reading of the information now available on the D600, I could seriously be tempted by one, very much so.
I currently shoot with a D7000 and literally can't fault it so far, and if the D600 is being called a 'full frame D7000' then that's a great thing in my book.
My two most used lenses are a Nikon 18-200 VR (my travel and do it all lens) and a Tokina 11-16 2.8 which I use a lot for nightclub assignments and also my personal landscape/cityscape photos, but I also have Nikon's 80-200 2.8 and 50 1.8, both of which would be great on a full frame!
The reason I haven't gone full frame has been partly the cost of the bodies, but mostly the size and weight as I travel often and having a smaller, lighter, more discreet camera is vital.
The big deciding factor for me is how would the resulting photos out of the D600 look when used in DX crop mode... If it worked great with the odd DX lens like my 18-200 then it's game on
I currently shoot with a D7000 and literally can't fault it so far, and if the D600 is being called a 'full frame D7000' then that's a great thing in my book.
My two most used lenses are a Nikon 18-200 VR (my travel and do it all lens) and a Tokina 11-16 2.8 which I use a lot for nightclub assignments and also my personal landscape/cityscape photos, but I also have Nikon's 80-200 2.8 and 50 1.8, both of which would be great on a full frame!
The reason I haven't gone full frame has been partly the cost of the bodies, but mostly the size and weight as I travel often and having a smaller, lighter, more discreet camera is vital.
The big deciding factor for me is how would the resulting photos out of the D600 look when used in DX crop mode... If it worked great with the odd DX lens like my 18-200 then it's game on
My main reasons for wanting a D600 over my current D7000 is an improvement in high ISO noise performance, and any improvement in dynamic range is always welcome.
If the size, features, controls, frame per second speed, and handling is the same as the D7000 then that's great for me.
The only paid 'work' I get with my photography is shooting events in nightclubs and in my opinion the D7000 churns out 'acceptable' shots at ISO 1600, but at 3200 they are pretty blotchy to my eyes, and that said, I rate the D7000 as probably the best crop sensor DSLR out there for noise and dynamic range.
At 800 and below, the D7000 still delights me with the quality of the images, for pleasure I shoot mostly landscape and automotive and therefore I can enjoy ISO 100 most of the time, and the quality at that is simply beautiful
I looked at the sample photos from the D600 on the Nikon page and the snow covered mountain shot seriously impressed me with the dynamic range on display (I've done a lot of snow photos so it was quite a good example for me) and the shot of the rocks/sky at night at ISO 3200 looked just brilliant as well
http://imaging.nikon.com/lineup/dslr/d600/sample.h...
If the size, features, controls, frame per second speed, and handling is the same as the D7000 then that's great for me.
The only paid 'work' I get with my photography is shooting events in nightclubs and in my opinion the D7000 churns out 'acceptable' shots at ISO 1600, but at 3200 they are pretty blotchy to my eyes, and that said, I rate the D7000 as probably the best crop sensor DSLR out there for noise and dynamic range.
At 800 and below, the D7000 still delights me with the quality of the images, for pleasure I shoot mostly landscape and automotive and therefore I can enjoy ISO 100 most of the time, and the quality at that is simply beautiful
I looked at the sample photos from the D600 on the Nikon page and the snow covered mountain shot seriously impressed me with the dynamic range on display (I've done a lot of snow photos so it was quite a good example for me) and the shot of the rocks/sky at night at ISO 3200 looked just brilliant as well
http://imaging.nikon.com/lineup/dslr/d600/sample.h...
NinjaPower said:
the shot of the rocks/sky at night at ISO 3200 looked just brilliant as well
Not massively impressed with that tbh. Sky noise looks OK but not worth £700 over a used D700- you could buy another D7000 or a nice lens with the change, for instance.Also, doesn't look that well captured. Nothing about the rocks is sharp yet there's a dark halo around the arch which suggests it's been blended in. A couple of artefacts above the horizon just right of the arch, too.
A heads up: For those of you really interested in going for the D600, I just found out that Panamoz have dropped the price to £1436... Or £1400 if you are a member of TalkPhotography!
http://panamoz.com/index.php/digital-cameras/nikon...
The 'street price' seems to be falling quite quickly at the moment due to the squabbling between importers and retailers.
I can't vouch for Panamoz as I haven't bought from them personally but it seems to be quite popular with buyers on TalkPhotography.
I am seriously tempted now... Just need to buy the full frame equivalent of my 18-200 which I believe is the 28-300...
http://panamoz.com/index.php/digital-cameras/nikon...
The 'street price' seems to be falling quite quickly at the moment due to the squabbling between importers and retailers.
I can't vouch for Panamoz as I haven't bought from them personally but it seems to be quite popular with buyers on TalkPhotography.
I am seriously tempted now... Just need to buy the full frame equivalent of my 18-200 which I believe is the 28-300...
I'm a very happy D7000 owner but am very interested in full frame. Really not sure which way to jump!
I am going to hold fire for the moment and see how things stand in the next six months.....a lot of D700 owners on places like Talk Photography seem unimpressed by the consumer body but if the D600 is markedly better at high ISO's I can see people trading up. Six months time the D800 will be sub £2000 and the D600 will be freely available for less than £1500 and maybe D700's will be £1000 second hand.
I am going to hold fire for the moment and see how things stand in the next six months.....a lot of D700 owners on places like Talk Photography seem unimpressed by the consumer body but if the D600 is markedly better at high ISO's I can see people trading up. Six months time the D800 will be sub £2000 and the D600 will be freely available for less than £1500 and maybe D700's will be £1000 second hand.
chrisj_abz said:
see the new D600 has been officially announced today, 24MP full frame, 39 point AF, 100-6400AF, 5.5fps.
Seems to be pretty much a full frame D7000, however the UK price seems high, £1955 for the body only which is only a few hundred quid less than the D800.
US price is $2100 so paying a lot more here, some of that is due to VAT but not all.
had it been a bit cheaper i may have considered getting one, but i think i'll either try saving up for a D800, or wait to see if theres a D400 comes out..
Try "Dixons travel" - many airports and also the chunnel terminal here in the UKSeems to be pretty much a full frame D7000, however the UK price seems high, £1955 for the body only which is only a few hundred quid less than the D800.
US price is $2100 so paying a lot more here, some of that is due to VAT but not all.
had it been a bit cheaper i may have considered getting one, but i think i'll either try saving up for a D800, or wait to see if theres a D400 comes out..
you will get at least 15% off any item, you will have to collect and travel if they have stopped folk leaving the terminal without travelling, or you can arrange delivery
Cheib said:
I'm a very happy D7000 owner but am very interested in full frame. Really not sure which way to jump!
I am going to hold fire for the moment and see how things stand in the next six months.....a lot of D700 owners on places like Talk Photography seem unimpressed by the consumer body but if the D600 is markedly better at high ISO's I can see people trading up. Six months time the D800 will be sub £2000 and the D600 will be freely available for less than £1500 and maybe D700's will be £1000 second hand.
You are the same as me. Happy with a D7000 but tempted by the advantages of full frame.I am going to hold fire for the moment and see how things stand in the next six months.....a lot of D700 owners on places like Talk Photography seem unimpressed by the consumer body but if the D600 is markedly better at high ISO's I can see people trading up. Six months time the D800 will be sub £2000 and the D600 will be freely available for less than £1500 and maybe D700's will be £1000 second hand.
The way I'm looking at it is, that if the D600 offers improved dynamic range, lower noise at high ISO, shallower depth of field, and better resolution than the D7000, all whilst in the same compact package then it is of serious interest to me.
I also agree with you that a lot of users on places like Talk Photography are turning their noses up at the D600 because of it's 'Consumer body and appearance', but to people like me and you, thats a great thing. It means the camera is smaller and lighter, which lets face it, is what you really want!
If the reputable grey importers are already hammering it down to £1400 including shipping then you can bet that the high street price will follow suit pretty soon.
I think I might go for it.
Upatdawn said:
chrisj_abz said:
see the new D600 has been officially announced today, 24MP full frame, 39 point AF, 100-6400AF, 5.5fps.
Seems to be pretty much a full frame D7000, however the UK price seems high, £1955 for the body only which is only a few hundred quid less than the D800.
US price is $2100 so paying a lot more here, some of that is due to VAT but not all.
had it been a bit cheaper i may have considered getting one, but i think i'll either try saving up for a D800, or wait to see if theres a D400 comes out..
Try "Dixons travel" - many airports and also the chunnel terminal here in the UKSeems to be pretty much a full frame D7000, however the UK price seems high, £1955 for the body only which is only a few hundred quid less than the D800.
US price is $2100 so paying a lot more here, some of that is due to VAT but not all.
had it been a bit cheaper i may have considered getting one, but i think i'll either try saving up for a D800, or wait to see if theres a D400 comes out..
you will get at least 15% off any item, you will have to collect and travel if they have stopped folk leaving the terminal without travelling, or you can arrange delivery
NinjaPower said:
The way I'm looking at it is, that if the D600 offers improved dynamic range, lower noise at high ISO, shallower depth of field, and better resolution than the D7000, all whilst in the same compact package then it is of serious interest to me.
I also agree with you that a lot of users on places like Talk Photography are turning their noses up at the D600 because of it's 'Consumer body and appearance', but to people like me and you, thats a great thing. It means the camera is smaller and lighter, which lets face it, is what you really want!
Yes agree with all of that. People love the D700 but at the same time a lot of people point out that it's bigger than the D3 when gripped. I often use my D7000 gripped as it sits better with some fo the lenses I have but it's great to have a smaller body when travelling for holidays etc.I also agree with you that a lot of users on places like Talk Photography are turning their noses up at the D600 because of it's 'Consumer body and appearance', but to people like me and you, thats a great thing. It means the camera is smaller and lighter, which lets face it, is what you really want!
I'm waiting for the reviews to see how the images stack up.
I'll also be interested to see how it does in crop mode...it's 10.5 MP so not too far off a D7000.
The Mansurovs have just got their hands on one
http://mansurovs.com/nikon-d600-is-here
Early info sounds very promising! Sounds like they will have a detailed review in a couple of days.
http://mansurovs.com/nikon-d600-is-here
Early info sounds very promising! Sounds like they will have a detailed review in a couple of days.
D600 sensor rated 3rd best ever: http://m.gizmodo.com/5944723/dxo-labs-rates-the-ni...
Only beaten by D800 and D800E.
I wish the positive reviews would stop coming... I'm going to end up spending money at this rate!
Only beaten by D800 and D800E.
I wish the positive reviews would stop coming... I'm going to end up spending money at this rate!
NinjaPower said:
.... if the D600 offers improved dynamic range, lower noise at high ISO, shallower depth of field, and better resolution than the D7000, all whilst in the same compact package then it is of serious interest to me.
I agree, and sensors are getting cheaper, so the price difference betweenFF and APS-C bodies will narrow.
And as you point out, FF bodies are getting more compact but the only aspect that cannot change is the comparative size of the lenses.
Sensors are also getting better and so 'acceptable' quality levels can be obtained from smaller
formats such as Micro 4/3rds, and their physics allow much smaller lenses than APS-C.
As you've said above; if dynamic range, low noise at high ISO and shallow depth of field
are important to somebody then FF is the way to go but if size is important then Micro 4/3rds
is already almost up with APS-C on image quality.
APS-C still has a clear lead over both other formats for sports/action photography
and has a critical mass but I wonder for how much longer?
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